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Edited by A_mo:
8/1/2021 3:05:31 PM
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I haven't used shatterdive in months and I only play a hunter. You get the kills from freezing people with glacier grenade so I don't see how shatterdive really adds that much. Not only that but a lot of people can't help but to smash the glacier crystals after they throw the grenade whether they froze someone with them or not so you oftentimes can end up killing someone because they lack self control.
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False you can shatter the crystals before they even form and kill everyone in a radius larger than the flagpoints in control. Its literally instant and more deadly than a panic slam from a D1 titan.
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To me the titan air dive is far more cheesy. And the only time shatterdive is really an issue is because of what matchmaking does to movement sometimes. Other than that I really have no sympathy for everyone and their overly cqc based playstyles after SBMM made it so I couldn't play like that. Shatterdive isn't much of a problem if you keep your distance.
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Don't let hunter's close to you and they won't instantly shatter crystals that haven't finished forming on you...great one. I bet you whined about stasis sooooo much but now that your class has the most broken thing stasis ever had and everything else about stasis is worthless its all good huh? You hunter mains are so predictable.
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Edited by A_mo: 8/1/2021 5:24:58 PMNo its not that. Its that the whole process of shatterdiving someone isn't like when HHSN was OP or anything else that is a true OHK, like the special weapons that everyone mains. Like I said I haven't used shatterdive in months because its more about shock an awe than utility with my playstyle. More people play hunters and it goes boosh really big. That's the only reason people see it as a problem. And I have mained stasis since it came out because I play 95% in the control playlist on top of the fact that I have some of the most caps on the planet so in a lot of matches I pull people who don't capture zones and I need the crowd control.
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Did you really just compare shatterdive to OHK weapons as if hunters can't have a ohk and shatterdive? Invalid point. [quote] More people play hunters and it goes boosh really big.[/quote]Yeah and that really big boosh OHKs really big. Say all you want its broken. You can shatter the crystals before they exist. Titans just slide up against an invisible wall and you need to sprint and slide into them again. Warlocks don't even have a shatter. Nothing you said makes any sense in context of the conversation.
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Edited by A_mo: 8/1/2021 5:30:59 PMYes. Yes I did. Because shatterdive does not cause other issues to occur the way people maining special weapons does. [quote]Nothing you said makes any sense in context of the conversation.[/quote] I know that. You could actually make the argument that in some matches people maining special weapons causes shatterdive to be worse. You can't make that argument in the opposite direction though.
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Other issues? We aren't talking about other issues or special weapons, we are talking about shatterdive being the strongest thing a guardian can do outside of a super or taking advantage of a meme exotic build...which hunters can do AND still use shatterdive.
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Get rid of it then. Its not going to effect me. Its actually not going to effect anyone because regardless of what people are using they still end up with basically the same stats at the end. The main reason that I want it to stay is because its just not as big of a deal as people think it is. You get the same kills you do from freezing and shooting the crystals. If people are standing on them they get frozen regardless of how fast they emerge. And I'm sorry the titan aerial dive is worse. Even though I think it may have gotten tweaked recently. I'm not sure because I can't stomach playing the game right now and then coming on here and seeing why it plays the way it does. If you are dying to it all that much its most likely because you would have gotten frozen by the crystals in the first place. And they do not have that large of an aoe when they get busted.
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We don't need to get rid of glacials and shatterdive, man you really are a child in the mind aren't you? It needs to take a melee cooldown like all the other melee abilities, that's all. And the fact that you are ignoring that you don't have to freeze anyone to kill them with it is just obstinance. And now you admit you don't even play in the current sandbox. You're a clown. Have a great day.
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Edited by A_mo: 8/1/2021 5:59:42 PMYou're trying way to hard. And I've about had it with people getting to act like this partially because of the way the game works. They need to stop designing this game for these people.
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Edited by Truthiness_Inc: 8/1/2021 6:13:46 PM[quote]Get rid of it [/quote] Looool you said get rid of it completely and I actually had a reasonable fix. But sure, try to pivot like you didn't suggest a specific change in the game first. You really are a manbaby. [quote]I've about had it[/quote]Have you had it?[quote]Get rid of it then. Its not going to effect me.[/quote] [quote]stop designing this game for these people[/quote][quote]You're trying way to hard.[/quote]
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Lose four in a row turn the game off then try to take it out on someone on the internet. Like you are some kind of tough guy? Since you're here can you please explain something to me. I often notice that this place has a lot of what I call "hop up on the internet" people. Basically, people who do whatever they do in their "real lives" then hop up on the internet to pretend like they have powers or can affect the way people feel through the internet. So basically you are pretending pretty hard right now. My question is, why do you people do this dumb shit and think anyone actually cares? I don't think that you care what I think. Why would you think that I really care that much about someone who I would crush at this game with my eyes closed if it wasn't so brokenly set up to cater to their stupidity?
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Edited by Truthiness_Inc: 8/1/2021 6:30:14 PMI'm playing right now...wtf are you talking about? I'm responding to like 5 people on the forums I'm sorry my matches have a 15 minute gap but it doesn't mean what you think it does. You seem pretty mad, even called me tough guy like I challenged you to a fight or said I would beat you up or something. You got some conflict resolution issues there buddy boy?[quote]ince you're here can you please explain something to me. I often notice that this place has a lot of what I call "hop up on the internet" people. Basically, people who do whatever they do in their "real lives" then hop up on the internet to pretend like they have powers or can affect the way people feel through the internet.[/quote]Lol I've clearly had an effect on the way you feel right now. [quote]So basically you are pretending pretty hard right now. [/quote]There you go again, are you suggesting you'd be too intimidating to say the things I've said to you offline? Now who's the tough guy?[quote]I don't think that you care what I think.[/quote]I don't, you're always saying ignorant things on here, this is performative for the people that would read our little interaction. I'd say I've done a great job illustrating my point even so far as that you're in your feelings and whining about toughness.[quote]Why would you think that I really care that much about someone who I would crush at this game with my eyes closed if it wasn't so brokenly set up to cater to their stupidity?[/quote]Because you're all butthurt on the forums making weird comments about being tough and clearly care more than you should.
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[quote]I'm playing right now...wtf are you talking about?[b] I'm responding to like 5 people on the forums [/b]I'm sorry my matches have a 15 minute gap but it doesn't mean what you think it does. [/quote] Multitasking I see... Just keep playing your game and thinking that its real.
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[quote]Multitasking I see...[/quote]Yep.[quote]Just keep playing your game and thinking that its real. [/quote]Wat? See you're not even making sense anymore. Destiny is a video game, very much not real. And this conversation? Its just that. I mean I'm making you look like a fool but it isn't really a game is it? *Gasp* Unless you're saying you think I won some kind of competition with you?!?! Did I win a prize?
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You're the one who gets on the internet to do this. Like I said, keep playing your game and thinking that its real. Maybe you should actually hop up off the internet and pay a little more attention to what you're playing.
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[quote]You're the one who gets on the internet to do this.[/quote]Do what? Have a conversation with someone I don't agree with? You're doing the same thing derpo.[quote]Like I said, keep playing your game and thinking that its real.[/quote]There you go again with your game talk, its just a conversation my dude. [quote]Maybe you should actually hop up off the internet and pay a little more attention to what you're playing.[/quote]What does that even mean? Like I'm doing bad at destiny because you think I'm typing while in game? Or is that some weird warning like I'm cruising for a bad time? You say some weird things that have nothing to do with anything when you're mad.
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Actually that's not what I'm on here for. I'm on here to see how peoples' stupidity emboldens them to make matchmaking work the way it does. Thank you for helping.
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Lol sure act like you're doing some behavioral science study instead of getting your anus handed to you in a disagreement. You're just on the destiny forums for a higher learning experience right? It isn't that you're a terminally wrong ignoramus that is embarrassed and now deflecting original intent away from the source of the embarrassment at all!
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Its definitely not science.
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We can agree on that, what you have done today has nothing to do with science.
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Honestly at this point I'm just replying to see how many times you reply because hop up on the internet people always have to pretend like they won an argument that no one was having in the first place. Look out for them shatterdives!
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You're replying as much as I am. This whole social interaction thing is hard for you to understand isn't it? Here let me explain, when a person says a thing to others you respond, then when your response is finished they respond to you. Would you like my autistic brother in law to explain social interaction to you? He seems to have a masterful grasp of it in comparison.
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I'm actually getting kind of upset that its taking you so long to get through that mountain of replies you have to make before you get back to replying to me. Other than that. I don't ever talk about my siblings like that. Why don't you show him what you just posted.
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Sure, I'll show him the whole interaction. Did you think me saying he's better with social interaction than you would upset him? Or did you think that because he's on the spectrum he'd be too stupid to understand that he has a few issues with social cues and understanding other people's point of view and have some sort of mental breakdown like rainman? Man you're really bad at this.
