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1/10/2022 5:05:11 PM
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Tbh the only fix they need for all pvp modes is to make match making skill based. For too long the majority of the player base avoids pvp altogether because the avg/lesser skilled players cannot compete. By allowing players to match against players at their own skill level they can have a more pleasurable experience win or lose and get better. Trials would greatly become better as all of these top tier players would lose their easy wins. Matching teams with a 25kd against those with less than 1 is not true competition. It’s just easy wins for the elite players. Make them fight each other and see how really good they are for a change. Just my opinion.
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When I saw 29 replies I knew SBMM had been mentioned lol, it brings out all the altruists, the guys that simply wouldn't be able to spend their whole weekend helping the weak to a flawless passage any more... and if you believe that, you'll buy this bridge on the moon I have for sale.
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I would love SBMM. If implemented correctly… Have it ranked based and keep the adept weapons on top… guarantee you that the same casuals asking for it would hate it and cry about not being able to get some gear 😂
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SBMM is horrible
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This may be true for some but SBMM in elimination and IB I’ve never had any issues and playing was enjoyable. Now I do agree CBMM has its merits as well. What bungie needs to do is figure out how to do both at once. Match you with players at your level and within your connection range. Kind of solves the issue all the way around for both sides of this debate.
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git gut and stop crying for sbmm, its not gonna save you
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Garbage idea that was tried twice and failed epically both times. Sbmm leads to the death of games, it's nearly killed d2 alone twice
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Editado por Gulf of Mexico: 1/11/2022 5:02:11 AMI just saw a tweet from DMG talking about the issues faced without sbmm. It sounds like they are working on it and we may see it back. Also PvP is not in a good place with what we have now.
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[quote]I just saw a tweet from DMG talking about the issues faced without sbmm. It sounds like they are working on it and we may see it back. Also PvP is not in a good place with what we have now.[/quote] Scrolled through 4 days worth of tweets and didn't see what you're talking about, he's clearly said here on the forums not to expect its return, you have it in survival and elim though so if that's you're thing enjoy!
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https://mobile.twitter.com/A_dmg04/status/1478470144024363015?s=20 Here it is.
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Thanks, though that tweet seems more like they're going to address lobby balancing feedback then anything to do with sbmm
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Sbmm not being on is causing the issues. I don’t know how this works but it sounds like they work together. It is not on so we are seeing lobby issues and I wonder if they can balance the lobby without it. We shall see, they have to do something because it is not working as it is now.
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Sbmm not being on is causing the issues. I don’t know how this works but it sounds like they work together. It is not on so we are seeing lobby issues. We shall see, they have to do something because it is not working as it is now.
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How do I find my posts? It has changed and I don’t see them. I read it here and replied to someone about it.
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I will get it for you it was linked here.
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So what your saying is , because a very small percentage of players in the game even play pvp if it is balanced into a fair encounter for all players the game will die? Literally at any given time the pvp pool is less than 15% of the player base and that’s even during IB/Trials. By reimplementing SBMM more players will return to pvp. The only people I hear complain about it are the die hard pvp players who love their easy wins. Just saying
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[quote]So what your saying is , because a very small percentage of players in the game even play pvp if it is balanced into a fair encounter for all players the game will die? [/quote] A fair encounter? Let's be honest here unless you are claiming better players have stro-blam!- shields or deal more damage with guns every game of pvp is fair [quote]Literally at any given time the pvp pool is less than 15% of the player base and that’s even during IB/Trials[/quote] Over 700K daily pvp players and that was when I checked 3 days ago before Trials was even up... [quote]By reimplementing SBMM more players will return to pvp.[/quote] No it will tank the population the same way it did when it was implemented in Y1D2 and most of shadowkeep. [quote]The only people I hear complain about it are the die hard pvp players who love their easy wins. Just saying[/quote] Anyone average or above complains about sbmm, the only players for it are a small part of the bottom tier, I'm a 0.9 kd myself and know sbmm hurts the majority
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There are millions of players in this game. 700k is a very small percentage. Matching 25kd players against players that aren’t even 1kd is just giving these die hards easy one shot kills. Tbh my avg was better before they brought trials back. Ever since. It’s basically spawn in get 1 shot over and over.
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[quote]There are millions of players in this game. 700k is a very small percentage.[/quote]There is roughly a million daily pve players. So 700K is actually very good and far better then when we had sbmm despite the game being years older. [quote]Matching 25kd players against players that aren’t even 1kd is just giving these die hards easy one shot kills. Tbh my avg was better before they brought trials back. Ever since. It’s basically spawn in get 1 shot over and over.[/quote] I doubt you've ever matched a 25kd player in your life. I'll bet you rarely even play 2.0kd players, check your recent matches and you'll see it's full of average gold and silver elo players
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Here’s a thought , SBMM w/ cbmm along side. Matched by skill then connection. Hmmm…
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[quote]Here’s a thought , SBMM w/ cbmm along side. Matched by skill then connection. Hmmm…[/quote] Or pure cbmm in 6vs6 like how casual modes should work and sbmm for competitive modes like how competitive modes should work
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Just happened to click on your name. Your rank 1 and all 3 characters are 1100. Do you even play the game lol
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Editado por Rebel4Life925: 1/11/2022 2:32:02 AMOk mr expert. The point is a very SMALL percentage of the player base evens plays pvp because it is majorly unbalanced and toxic. That is fact. You want more players to delve into pvp. Put SBMM back in the game. The only ones who will quit will be the ones who want easy wins. Poll the entire community and not just that small percentage which you seem to be. Edit; in fact the best idea. Get rid of pvp altogether. This is a pve game. Use those resources for more pve content or to unvault content we’ve already paid for.
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[quote]Ok mr expert. The point is a very SMALL percentage of the player base evens plays pvp because it is majorly unbalanced and toxic. That is fact.[/quote]How is 70% of the daily population a small percentage? [quote] You want more players to delve into pvp. Put SBMM back in the game. The only ones who will quit will be the ones who want easy wins. Poll the entire community and not just that small percentage which you seem to be.[/quote] Sbmm historically has led to our lowest pvp numbers, so how would putting something back that 3/3 times it was attempted led to the death of the playerbase be beneficial to getting more players in? Would you get some bottom tier players back? Sure. Would they make up for the hundreds of thousands who drop the game due to sbmm? Nope [quote]Edit; in fact the best idea. Get rid of pvp altogether. This is a pve game. Use those resources for more pve content or to unvault content we’ve already paid for.[/quote] This is a clear cut example of why bungie shouldn't listen to your feedback regarding changes to a mode you'd prefer dissappear They're much better off taking advice from the players who love and play the mode the most
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And that’s exactly why it is completely broken , unbalanced and an utterly toxic sandbox…
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[quote]And that’s exactly why it is completely broken , unbalanced and an utterly toxic sandbox…[/quote] Destiny has never and will never be a balanced pvp shooter
