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publicado originalmente en: Crucible is not fun.
6/22/2021 1:45:22 PM
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Bungie has their matchmaking down to a science. Just from my recent escapade into PvP yesterday it went as followed. I'd get 2 games where it felt great. The score wasn't drastically different. I could use whatever I wanted and not feel like I was playing like trash. It was fun. Then the third match would hit and none of shit worked. Guns I was using just a minute ago felt like I was shooting into the wind. I'd get instantly spawn rushed and destroyed, usually mercy within 1-2 mins flat. Then the next match would be decent. Some hiccups but it felt tolerable. Then I'd get 1-2 good matches and then get another ass beating. The BEST thing I noticed was the inconsistency between matches. For example, I played one match in which a team of 3 was absolutely Obliterating us. I'm talking at the end of the game their KD were 5.5-7.5 across the board. Then in the next match, same people as I didn't leave the matchmaking, it put that team of 3 on my side and it was like the lights went out. We got destroyed. The people who had been on my team where now on the enemy team and were playing like gods and the gods that I was fighting previously were now essentially lemmings. And this isn't even the first time I've seen something like this happen. I could go from borderline abusing a team to getting absolutely fisted by that same team in the next match. And don't even get me started on "Breaking up teams to find a better match" BS. I love when they break up teams and then put me in a lobby with the exact same people that it just considered "unbalanced" for me to match with or throw you into a game in progress that's about to get a mercy. It's as if Bungie just flips a switch and turns off all your shit when they feel you're doing too well or something. I go from tanking a teams worth of gunfire in my super to being instantly shut down by 1 dude spamming a Handcannon on me. I'm dying from 5-8 feet behind cover from people I literally can't even see on my screen or I'm in a position where there is absolutely 0% they can even see me at all. All the crispy hits I was getting now miss, the lag feels terrible, people don't take any damage and survive things that should've blatantly killed them but instead leave them with a sliver of hp. It's frustrating and stupid to say the least. Whether it be Connection Based, Skill based or whatever Frankenstein concoction they have going on here can I please have some kind of matchmaking where I'm not constantly looking at my screen with a 🤨😟🤯 type of face every 2 seconds.
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  • Bungie figured out a long time ago how to leverage connection advantages and disadvantages to rig the outcome of matches, and more specifically player to player engagements. The addition of the “damage referee” was the completion of their ultimate vision to provide everyone with a curated matchmaking experience A perfect analogy is destiny being like a racing game with catch-up mechanics, except the race is your entire career with the game. Not only will everyone get a win, they are treated to incredible matches that play out like the highlight reel of their favorite streamer. Everyone in destiny gets to feel like a super powered space magic warrior angel, EVEN IN PVP!!!! Sounds good right? Yay! Don’t take it too seriously right? Wrong… For all their efforts, bungee cannot control the Internet. There are certain players who have either Radically high or low Internet speeds, people who manipulate their system, as well as players who simply become so good that they are able to utilize predictive actions at a level that negates any advantage that the game is trying to leverage for their opponent. Then there are players who utilize all of the aforementioned advantages. Destiny PVP is largely an illusion, an illusion That only certain players, either intentionally or accidentally have broken…

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  • Nailed it.

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  • Exactly. Well said!

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  • This is EXACTLY the same experience as me. Well said.

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  • You completely nailed it!! I’ve also had similar experiences. I would bet money it’s their algorithm.

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  • Matchmaking in Rumble (i play Rumble because 6v6 as a solo player is so unenjoyable) games over the last 3 days has been a lot more rough than usual. Constant lobby of flawless unbroken players all with adept 120 hand cannons from Trials of Osiris. Game ends up in a blow out, post game message from Bungie that the players will be broken up to find a better match, next lobby all the same players back. It got so bad that i quit and loaded up Halo 5. I used the focused matchmaking preference on quickplay and had so much more fun.

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  • You just nailed it down to every excruciating detail.

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  • Definitely been there. It feels as though a completely different sandbox gets slid under my feet because of everything you said. Depressing at times.

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  • Same experience here. I use the same load out match to match, and get different results. There was one game I was using Cerberus, and was getting kills left and right, next match, it couldn’t even hit the side of a barn. Funny shenanigans in destiny pvp.

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  • I have had similar experiences. Some games where everything seems to connect and others where i restart my router because I start to doubt my gigabit internet. This inconsistency is yet another reason why its not fun. I don’t mind being beaten. But let it be a good fight. Not one where I lose multiple teammates or latency is destroying the entire match.

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  • Spot on, it happens to frequent to just be a coincidence.

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  • What you describe is exactly my experience as well. I'd like to think that stuff is somehow due to latency issues rather than it being something the game forces on purpose, but who knows. When I'm full health/shield AND get the first shot off on an enemy player that I anticipated peeking and they basically insta-kill me from 30m with a HC, I know it's going to be a rough match.

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