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4/1/2019 3:15:01 AM
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I‘m one of those console plebs PC gamers look down upon because honestly 90% of the time I can’t tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps. I only really notice it when it dips down to a really low frame rate. If I had the option I think I’d take resolution over frame rate any day. 4K just looks so damn pretty. To hell with performance.
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So why not build or buy a pc so you don’t have to compromise? 30fps is terrible and you are lying to yourself if you think otherwise. And even s 12 year old can tell the difference between 30 and 60. The motion resolution is better and everything feels smoother and can use higher controller sensitivity.... the list could go on. I getthat some people want to just turn it on n play and that’s fine, but it’s 2019 and even these plug n play consoles should run 60fps. I game 4k hdr 60fps on pc with all the highest settings on my c7 lg oled 65” so I get what you say about the game looking good. The C7 also accepts 120hz over hdmi @ 1080p resolution, when playing 1080p 120fps and no hdr the game still looks better than Xbox one x version, doesn’t look like a slideshow and is just smooth af. Not to mention consoles are running the game in low settings with low field of view. Now for around same price as one x u could build a 1080p machine that would run all high settings and get 60 FPS minimum, your tv will upvonvert 1080p to near 4k anyhow so you wouldn’t notice any difference in resolution.
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Editado por Sealed Graffiti: 4/1/2019 12:10:53 PMBruh chill out, I have rainbow six siege (a very competitive game) on both pc and console, I barely see a difference, funny thing is the biggest difference I see is fov... Consoles are fine, if I can play competitive game fine on console, it’s fine, like calm down with the insults... And if you ask I play that game A LOT, so don’t pull that “you barely play so you don’t know the difference”... [spoiler]perhaps you could join the void...[/spoiler]
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I’m chill lol Just not going to let people on the internet tell me there’s no difference from 30 to 60fps. I get it, there’s a lot of console fanboys here, I use to be one myself until I was able to see how much better frames were on pc. Graphics are good on console frames not so much. This kind gentleman that keeps arguing with me said he prefers graphics over performance so I was just trying to enlighten him you don’t have to choose bc for same price as one x you can have a much more powerful pc capable of higher frames than 30fps, I know some games run 60 but it doesn’t change the fact that consoles have potato processors. You guys can try arguing all you want with me, I don’t mind but it won’t change facts.
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Dude I ain’t no console fanboy, I’m not any fanboy... I play what I want, and what I’m saying is I see NO clear difference between pc and console, in very competitive game like siege which I play a lot on both platforms... I think I would see a difference... [spoiler]perhaps you could join the void...[/spoiler]
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[quote]So why not build or buy a pc so you don’t have to compromise? [/quote] Because I don’t want to build a PC. I don’t know the first thing about building PC’s. Even if I did the only reason to do so would be to get better graphics and I couldn’t care less about better graphics. [quote]30fps is terrible and you are lying to yourself if you think otherwise. And even s 12 year old can tell the difference between 30 and 60. The motion resolution is better and everything feels smoother and can use higher controller sensitivity.... the list could go on. I getthat some people want to just turn it on n play and that’s fine, but it’s 2019 and even these plug n play consoles should run 60fps.[/quote] I guess I’m lying to myself then. I’m sure if you put them side by side I would probably be able to tell the difference (maybe). But if I just started up a random game I guarantee you I’d have no idea what frame rate it’s running at. Sorry if that’s not the answer you want to hear but it’s the truth. I get that some people are really into graphics and stuff but for myself it’s not a major issue. I’ve been playing games since the eighties and I can tell you my enjoyment of a game is not in any way related to its graphics. I enjoyed games back then just as much (or more) than games now. A good game is a good game regardless of frame rate or resolution. And graphics won’t make a shit game good.
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Editado por Yagerweisster: 4/1/2019 4:03:14 AMAlso this post isn’t about graphics, I’m talking about frame rates and the fact current consoles can’t achieve high enough frame rates for most people.
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Editado por Yagerweisster: 4/1/2019 4:09:15 AMBuilding a pc is easy af, 30 min to 1 hour of watching video on YouTube will teach you, pc part picker.com will make sure all your parts are compatible and if you don’t want to build your own prebuilt gaming rigs have become very reasonable. You said you want graphics over performance but when I mentioned pc looks better and plays better for same price as console you have nothing to say. I just can’t believe you when you say you’ve been gaming since eighties and think that consoles are acceptable as is right now. Console gaming is just low quality for the price of them. A pc built or bought prebuilt for same price as 4k console will outperform said console on every single level. You’d think an old time gamer would understand value and price vs performance. Anyway, if you like it great, but let’s keep it on the topic of next gen consoles
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[quote]Building a pc is easy af, 30 min to 1 hour of watching video on YouTube will teach you, pc part picker.com will make sure all your parts are compatible and if you don’t want to build your own prebuilt gaming rigs have become very reasonable. [/quote] Yeah but I have no interest in doing so. I could do a lot of things in 30 minutes if I wanted. But unless I’m actually interested in doing so I’m not going to. I could also bake a cake in 30 minutes but I have no interest in doing so. So I won’t. [quote]You said you want graphics over performance but when I mentioned 1080p on pc looks better and plays better for same price as console you have nothing to say. [/quote] I said I prefer graphics over performance if I had the option. Doesn’t mean I care that much about it. I certainly wouldn’t go build a PC to get it. I’m happy with what I’ve got on a console. [quote]I just can’t believe you when you say you’ve been gaming since eighties and think that consoles are acceptable as is right now. [/quote] Dude seriously? Consoles today have absolutely incredible graphics compared to games from the eighties. 8 bit games from that era were just a few pixels moving on a screen. Consoles now are like a miracle compared to graphics back then. And guess what. Some of the best games ever made were from that era. The quality of a game is not tied to its graphics or frame rate. [quote]Console gaming is just low quality for the price of them. A pc built or bought prebuilt for same price as 4k console will outperform said console on every single level. You’d think an old time gamer would understand value and price vs performance. [/quote] The biggest value for an “old time gamer” is convenience. Plug it in an play it - don’t worry about upgrading it for 6 years.
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Like I said keep it on topic. I can’t change your mind. A prebuilt pc same price as your console will outperform console in every aspect and your original response said you thought 4k looked so pretty. Pair it with acceptable frame rates and you e got a winner. Pc gaming has come a long way and surpassed consoles in the industry as more people are playing in pc now than ever before, that right there means something. Hopefully 120hz consoles will be around 6 years from now when you upgrade so you can understand.
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Editado por Uncanny_Vale: 4/1/2019 4:21:15 AM[quote]Like I said keep it on topic. I can’t change your mind. A prebuilt pc same price as your console will outperform console in every aspect and your original response said you thought 4k looked so pretty. Pair it with acceptable frame rates and you e got a winner. [/quote] I’m not denying it would. A PC is obviously always going to have superior graphics and frame rate. But it’s like I said I don’t care about that stuff. That’s the problem with PC elitists. They think all gamers should care about the same things they do.
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First off my op isn’t about pc’s, it’s about future consoles. Secondly I can’t understand how you feel your input on frame rates hold anymore value than mine especially when you haven’t experienced high frame rates for yourself. Third and finally 30fps belongs in the eighties with those greatest games ever made in 8 bit.
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[quote]First off my op isn’t about pc’s, it’s about future consoles. [/quote] So was my original comment. You’re the one that made it about PC’s with your long rant about how much better they are. You also mentioned them in your original post. [quote]Secondly I can’t understand how you feel your input on frame rates hold anymore value than mine especially when you haven’t experienced high frame rates for yourself. [/quote] I never said my position holds more value. I gave you my own personal opinion about my own graphical preferences. You then proceeded to tell me how wrong my opinion is - thereby inferring your input had more value than mine. You are dong the very thing you accuse me of doing. [quote]Third and finally 30fps belongs in the eighties with those greatest games ever made in 8 bit.[/quote] Again - why does your input on frame rates hold more value than mine? I don’t know how you can get so offended because I dared to express a personal preference, and then proceed to assert your own opinion as gospel truth. Once and for all I don’t care about frame rate. That is my personal view. That doesn’t mean you don’t have to care about them either. You can hold whatever opinion you like about frame rates if you like.
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Lol, enjoy your potato Done conversing with you. and my input on FPS certainly outweighs yours bc I’ve played at 200hz. And bc you think 30fps is acceptable, it’s not and the motion resolution at 4k 30FPS is just terrible, 99.9% of gamers would agree. I don’t give a shit what some grandma in the 0.01% community think, I know what quality frame rates look and play like and I can guarantee you if you played destiny 2 @ 60fps or higher you would be eating every response you’ve made tonight. Good night and good mute.
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[quote]Lol, enjoy your potato[/quote] I will. And have been for years thank you very much. [quote]and my input on FPS certainly outweighs yours bc I’ve played at 200hz. And bc you think 30fps is acceptable, it’s not and the motion resolution at 4k 30FPS is just terrible, 99.9% of gamers would agree. [/quote] 30fps is totally acceptable to me. I don’t care about 99.9% of gamers. I only care about my own opinion. The question I have is why do you care so much what I think? [quote]I don’t give a shit what some grandma in the 0.01% community think, I know what quality frame rates look and play like and I can guarantee you if you played destiny 2 @ 60fps or higher you would be eating every response you’ve made tonight. Good night and good mute.[/quote] Seems you do care. But it comes back to my original point. Frame rate doesn’t make a game good. Destiny 2 at 60fps is still a shit game. It’s just a shit game with more frames per second. I think you’re a little insecure if you have to mute people because they don’t share your obsession with frame rates. But if you want to get an erection over how many frames a second you can get go right ahead. You do you.
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60fps is not an obsession and you are wrong plain and simple. Bye
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I thought you muted me lol.
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Nope just didn’t want to argue anymore, I created post to talk about how cool future consoles could be and we got way off topic, lol
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You’re the one that turned it into an argument. All I originally said was that I’m not concerned about frame rate because I can’t tell the difference between 30 and 60fps - which is true, I honestly can’t. You apparently took massive offence at that.
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Lol, yeah sorry for trying to save you money and gain performance. And like I said anyone can tell the difference between 30 and 60 lol Sry I’m not sry Enjoy your potato
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[quote]Lol, yeah sorry for trying to save you money [/quote] I already told him a 15 min call to Geico could save him 15% or more.....
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Hahahahaha! That’s frigging gold!!
