the only thing I can say to this and Deej is this, LOOT we WANT LOTS OF LOOT! simple no? look getting rid of the old guns is not I repeat NOT HOW YOU MAKE A GAME LAST, after reading this I'm really debating on even touching ttk. I know there are alot of people saying f this f that get good scrub and so on, but its not about that, I don't believe taking away content in a game is ever a good idea and I'm warning everyone who reads this now that we CAN NOT let this become the normality of gaming, if other companies see that this formula works then they will copy it, the next thing you know your up to your eyeballs with games that copy bungies business ethics. can we really afford for that to happen? what ever happens to games being about fun? games should be about having fun not whos spending more money. take ESO for instance, HUGE game HUGE population, even larger support teams. Bethesda has it right, there making high quality games, yea they take a little longer but look what you get in the end. now I know there are some out there that are going to say ESO is buggy, and your right it is, but there working on it, and are taking there work seriously. what has bungie shown us? they take alot of time flying all over the world and obviously have enough time to party and take pictures, then they post them, seems an awful lot like to me at least there gloating about there success and how much money they were able to gather. I don't remember bungie ever doing this in the past.