Free will is freedom to choose everything involving you. So from the start of your life, you had no free will because you did not chose when, where, and who you were born to. Even more so, what species you were, what planet and so on.
But lets imagine you did pick here, even the rest of your life, you are not calling the shots. It may seem like in your mind that you are making decisions but they are made for you. You are basing those decisions on things like, history, events, and things you observe. So are you really making those decisions.
Imagine this, if God is real, and God had a rewind button and just went back 1 hour. and hit play, Everything would happen exactly as it did, unless he changed something (maybe where a wave hit, or move a rock out of the way of somebody tripping)
To take it a step further, how many people said.. if I were you I would do things different? Nope, actually if I were you and I was made up of the same particles as you, and I had your past interactions then I would be doing the same thing you are doing right now.
If you look at it that way, are criminals really at fault when they make bad decisions? Because if you were them, you would be making the same ones.
If we don't have free will and that means freedom to choose everything then how can we be at fault for anything?
This has a really big impact on what we are, how we got here and so on.
If a God created us, then he 'knowing all' would know that we would be in this situation. he would have though it out better prior to creating us. If we can ponder it, then God already knows it.
If we are a computer simulation then our free will is a program, this gives us artificial intelligence, but still it is situational. no worries folks, they will fix the bugs (better than Bungie I hope) and somebody will play again. (lets hope they keep the electric on)
If we are just by chance, well then for sure 100% there is no free will, but don't worry because this is not as bad as it seems, because billions of years went by before you arrived and it never bothered you.. so there will be nothing to worry about after.
Ok I will also leave you with this question... If you died and went to Heaven, who is to say that Heaven is not simply a computer program? We can program God mode in games now.
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You also could have just said "Behaviorism"
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-blam!-ing casual
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1 RespuestaOP is dumb.
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As long as heaven has devs that come out with sweet games.
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I might not have free will but I sure as hell have ur mum
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I'm freer than some old stale bread From a crappy restaurant Freer than some dirty head From a girly slut savant I'm freer than Tom Petty When he's 'fallin' in that song Freer than a pizza That takes an hour too long I'm freer than a bird Soaring through the sky And freer than a turd That smells so much you cry So what's the point I'm driving at Is the question that I hear? I really couldn't give a shat So long as I have beer.
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1) I choose to reply to this thread 2) Free will doesn't mean choice without influence People can tell you shit all they want They can even threaten your family by in the end, it's you who makes the choice 3) Free will =/= Do whatever you want Free will isn't absolute freedom It's having control of your own actions and many times, that means you don't do whatever you want
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Tl; dr OP is an fgt.
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14 RespuestasEditado por Kamots: 1/30/2015 2:45:42 PM[quote]Free will is freedom to choose everything involving you. So from the start of your life, you had no free will because you did not chose when, where, and who you were born to. Even more so, what species you were, what planet and so on.[/quote] Free will is the freedom to choose. It does not necessarily require the ability to be completely devoid of influence. [quote]But lets imagine you did pick here, even the rest of your life, you are not calling the shots. It may seem like in your mind that you are making decisions but they are made for you. You are basing those decisions on things like, history, events, and things you observe. So are you really making those decisions.[/quote] Even though something can influence your decisions, that does not mean you are not making them. [quote]Imagine this, if God is real, and God had a rewind button and just went back 1 hour. and hit play, Everything would happen exactly as it did, unless he changed something (maybe where a wave hit, or move a rock out of the way of somebody tripping)[/quote] He wouldn't change anything, so it probably would. To continue your own assumptions, such a being exists at every moment of our timeline. He would have already changed anything he wanted to. Additionally, would it matter? Why can somebody not make the same decision twice? That would not be against the idea of free will. [quote]To take it a step further, how many people said.. if I were you I would do things different? Nope, actually if I were you and I was made up of the same particles as you, and I had your past interactions then I would be doing the same thing you are doing right now.[/quote] This is because you would have to [b]be[/b] me for that to be the case. You would not be a different me making the same decisions, you would be me. [quote]If you look at it that way, are criminals really at fault when they make bad decisions? Because if you were them, you would be making the same ones.[/quote] Only because we would be them, not us. That does not change the fact that we as a society should not want those people doing criminal things. Especially because they probably could choose to be different. [quote]If we don't have free will and that means freedom to choose everything then how can we be at fault for anything? This has a really big impact on what we are, how we got here and so on.[/quote] If we found a species of animal that couldn't help but kill all humans, does that mean we should let it kill all humans? It is at fault for attacking us, regardless of whether or not it has a choice in the matter. Realistically, it chooses to attack as a result of what it is. [quote]If a God created us, then he 'knowing all' would know that we would be in this situation. he would have though it out better prior to creating us. If we can ponder it, then God already knows it.[/quote] He hasn't necessarily thought it out, he exists at literally every moment of time, in his own present tense. [quote]If we are a computer simulation then our free will is a program, this gives us artificial intelligence, but still it is situational. no worries folks, they will fix the bugs (better than Bungie I hope) and somebody will play again. (lets hope they keep the electric on)[/quote] A sentient computer can still make choices within its factual existence. [quote]If we are just by chance, well then for sure 100% there is no free will, but don't worry because this is not as bad as it seems, because billions of years went by before you arrived and it never bothered you.. so there will be nothing to worry about after.[/quote] Even if we are by chance, that does not mean we do not have free will. We can still choose within our factual existence. Some intellectuals point towards interactions on a quantum level for this. Although, if I am to be honest, this would still require some faith. [quote]Ok I will also leave you with this question... If you died and went to Heaven, who is to say that Heaven is not simply a computer program? We can program God mode in games now.[/quote] Would it matter? As of now, all we know is our own reality. Unless the "God" figure chose to let us find out about the truth, we could never tell the difference. Nor, really, would he be any different, necessarily, from the conventional idea of God. If I was to put it into words, we have free will within a set. Each choice we make (as well as simply every experience that we have) narrows our future choices. The tree of future possibilities (some would say our choice of alternate universes) is further restricted.
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Old news, all evidence points to us having no free will, ah well
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-flips to next thread 3 seconds in- [i]I hate this channel.[/i] :/
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Man if I had free will I'd have been born to Morgan Freeman
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Woah. I know kung-fu.
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While I agree with the proposed question, this lost had an awful writing style.
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1 RespuestaOf course I don't! You know how many people would be dead right now if I did?
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5 RespuestasSomeone is an idiot and doesn't realize hundreds of people have addressed this issue
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Everyone is confined to a cage of varying degrees.
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1 Respuesta🔥I can choose to do something because of a certain situation, yes, but that doesn't mean that I can't choose to do something completely unethical in a particular situation. We are influenced by many things, but we still have the ability to choose.🔥
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1 RespuestaI just used my free will to not read any of the post. Just the title.
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Editado por Durable Sausage: 1/30/2015 7:46:02 AMBut Cheese Doodles My sausage: 1 You: 0
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2 RespuestasOP's dog died yesterday
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Free Will the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion. right there is probably the best indicator of free will not existing. I guess you could choose not to breath (because it is a necessity) but then you will suffer the Fate of dying. So you do have the constraint of necessity and fate for that matter.
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If god is real Oh you lost me there mate
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Oh, I know. Doesn't stop us striving for happiness, though.