So I'm sure you will all agree with me that your God is all knowing, all powerful, he loves us all etc. etc.
So with that being said why is there evil in the world? You can say that evil exist in the world because of satan. But let's think about that a little bit more shall we?
So who is satan? Satan was an angel just like all the others, except onE day He wanted to be just like god. That was his sin and that's what made him become the first fallen angel. Correct? Ok so now that we know how lucifer became Satan lets go a little further.
Like I stated above, it's generally considered that satan is behind all of the evil and negative things that happen in our world. But this isn't true at all. God is the real reason for all of the evil, hate, hurt, and other negative things that happen in our world.
Satan was an angel. God created all of the angels including satan. That means god is behind all the evil.
I'm sure you would try to argue that since we humans have free will that means that god could have given the angels free will as well. This would be fine except for one thing....
Remember how we agreed on the fact that god is all knowing and all powerful? That means that when god was creating satan he already knew that satan would try to make every human burn in hell. He already knew that satan was going to make all of humanity suffer.
So now we know that when god was creating humanity, he did so knowing that he created another being who's entire reason for existing is to make each and every single one of us suffer. To make each and every single one of us hate and hurt. He had full knowledge of what was going to happen to us, yet he let it happen no problem. But isn't he supposed to I've each single one of us?
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To all the people in here shouting that free will is the answer to the questions I have asked, here is your answer to free will:
God is all knowing he knows exactly what each of is will do in the past, present, and future. It seems like we have free will to us because we can't see into the future. But god can therefore to god our free will is meaningless. The same is said for the angels. Therefore god created satan knowing how much pain he would cause to a creation that god supposedly loves.
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27 RespuestasGood questions. I'm going to start with the by now overused answer of free will. When God created man, He gave man free will so that man would choose to worship God instead of being forced. Now as for evil in the world, there are three explanations. (1) God is a just God. He punishes those who did sin. (2) God tests faith. He causes issues in the life of his followers to see if they turn to Him or away. (3) God is resourceful. He uses tragedies, like natural disasters, to bring people out of their comfort zone and to Him. Lucifer sinned so what about that? It is my belief that God was testing Lucifer. He put the angel in a position where he could develop pride and jealousy. Lucifer was swayed and rebelled. But if God sees all past, present, and future, how can free will even work? There are two explanations. (1) God predestined what was going to happen from the beginning. (2) God can see every possible future to every possible decision and still manipulate it to His will. I hope that makes a little sense to you. In return I have a question for you: How can there be good in the world without God?
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1 RespuestaI respect this point of view. Even though I follow my own way of thinking. I love reading of other people dissection of religion. If you must no in any case I'm a Diest meaning I believe in a higher being yet I don't believe it has a hand in our day to day lives.
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2 RespuestasI'm an atheist but I respect freedom of religion and in return i expect respect. You sir are being very rude, don't harass people because of their religious belief.
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I think you meant to put a comma after "This". I don't know, maybe you didn't.
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Well since we are all declaring what religion we are then stating our opinions as if it effects it I'm a Satanist and I hate all of you.
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1 Respuestai'm a christian but i don't believe in free will.
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Instead of asking why don't you read the Bible. It has an answer to any and all questions you have
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Editado por Mad Max: 12/31/2014 7:34:01 PM
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That's like saying a couple had a kid and he ended up being a serial killer as an adult even though they raised him right and took care of him yatta yatta. And then you turn around and say this is all the parents fault they should have never had a kid. It's just stupid logic.
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2 RespuestasFree will. He wanted us to not be robots. This allows us to make choices, albeit my always good ones. Sins origin was disobedience of God from Adam and Eve. They let it enter, we are from them, we have it, we can choose. That simple. If God were to take away a sin, there would be no choices made by us. We would be doing what he wants without us wanting to. Robots.
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11 RespuestasSatan was not an angel, there is no such thing as original sin. Angels don't disobey God. Satan is a jinn, they have the freedom to disobey and choose like we do. Angels don't. You don't like my Islamic perspective? Oh well whatever
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Editado por Big Unc: 12/31/2014 6:52:11 PMGod gave us free will so that we could love him in return on our own... He didn't program us like robots to do everything he says... What would be the point of creation if the people you created couldn't make decisions for itself... Of course He knew there would be those who rebelled and yes it upsets him greatly... But to have your creation come to you on its own accord is all the sweeter than it not having to make that decision. He gave that same free will to the angels and Lucifer.. Being selfish wanted to have the same authority as the one who created him he wanted to be his creators equal which is wrong... We did the same when we are the apple... With a little prompting from Satan... There is evil in this world because when sin entered the world everyone became corrupt... If God is behind the evil, why would he care so much as to suffer the maximum Roman penalty, known as crucifixion for people to have the chance to be forgiven of the evil and to live a life against it... (This is yet another choice). Crucifixion- First. Arrested Second. Beaten or flogged (look it up its awful) Third, after being beaten almost to death ( many die from the beating) they have to carry their cross through the city to the spot where they will be crucified (miles away from where they start walking) There they hammer large nails into the hands and feet of the prisoner and leave him to die... It is incredibly hard to breathe while on the cross... Jesus sweated blood (an actual medical condition) before being handed over to the Pharisees by one of his own followers which he knew would betray him (Judas) he died for I'm not the best at explaining the reason for evil in the world and how God is not behind it but I will quote the guy I know who explains it best when I get off work. Oh nice job... You baited me well done... If this was your purpose and all was a troll... You are a master at it...
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WHY CANT WE BE FRIENDS, WHY CAN'T WE BE FRIENDS?
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Perhaps God is just a great clockmaker puts it together winds it up and let's it tick until it falls apart
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This thread is very angular and OCD-ish
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5 RespuestasEditado por Bapaotje: 12/30/2014 5:58:38 PMhttp://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/309/409/7da.png Christians 0 Atheist 1
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Also don't forget that Satan only kills ten people in the bible..... God kills millions..... What's that about
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2 RespuestasPeople actually giving a -blam!- about this crap make me sad
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Lol, I'm not reading this
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I believe in balance. There is no good without evil. For if evil did not exist "good" would lose all meaning because everything will be good. Still you speak some wise words and I have no answer for you.
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2 RespuestasI have avoided going through this thread in order to stop myself from hating on some morons. The urge is there though, I might have to do it later.
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1 RespuestaOP is a fag. Didn't read don't care not reading replies don't care
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Because you touch yourself at night.
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Op is an uneducated fool..... I will state one theory and then leave: Many Worlds theory. My work is done, please just stop op you are looking like an idiot.