Edit: Please read the post all the way through, the point is not about reaching 32 or the raid be impossible at 31. :D
Anybody else excited about the incoming oppurtunity to be unable to find a group because people will only take 32s and rng is busy screwing you?
Personally I feel the entire DLC is a level higher than it should have been. Vendor gear should have been light 30. Its as high as necessary for content outside the raid, and it means people who just bought vanguard gear aren't in a better position to raid than those with raid gear.
In light of 30 being the new base, Crota normal should only have gone to 31. That way our hard earned and grinded raid sets arent a damn liability after the first checkpoint in. And then the hard mode could have been 32. What you've just done is given all the people who only want to run with people with max light a legitimate reason.
Think it was hard to find a group for hard atheon as 29? Good luck finding a group for 33 Crota raid as an unlucky 31, where you will have 2 levels of damage outgoing reduction and squishiness working against you.
Honestly if your just worried about the people beating the boss too fast give him more health. If you think it too easy, come up with mechanics to make the fight more interesting. The artificial difficulty of level difference is just going to result in the exclusion of many of your players from even attempting the content till a while post release. Just my thoughts.
Edit: many people are taking this as a complaint about 32 being hard to get. Its not, I know. I just feel like using level disparity to make a raid "harder" is lazy and unfair to the few people who will be shafted by RNGesus.
There are better ways to make a game challenging and a hard raid "harder" than by gating it behind the RNG of the normal mode.
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3 RespuestasYou'll have to be level 32 to even attempt the Crota battle on 33 if the Hard mode follows the level jump in the raid like normal does. In normal, the Abyss is 30, the bridge is 31, and Deathsinger and Crota are 32. If hard follows that then hard will be: Abyss 33, bridge 34, and Deathsinger and Crota 35. At 31, you won't do any damage at all to the level 35s because you'll be 4 levels under and that makes all enemies immune to damage. That's why level 26s can't do 30 nightfall. And why if you're 4 levels under anything, you can't do the mission.
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1 RespuestaLevel 33 raid? What?
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2 RespuestasIf you were level 31 in the hard mode CE, by the Crota fight its self, the enemies would be immune to your damage, as they would be level 35. Normal mode CE is level 30. By the end the enemies are level 32. Following that logic, enemies in the Hard Raid (Level 33) would be level 35 by the end. Crota will be a bitch to fight.
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2 RespuestasVOG has become pointless with the dark below. I think they want the dark below to still be valid when the next expansion comes out perhaps. We plow through content too fast tbh lol.
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1 RespuestaNo problem, Cheddar king will give us nice cheese for uhm...x-mas present!
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16 Respuestas30/31 for normal raid, 31/32 for hard, i see no issue
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3 RespuestasIll do it with 31's its not based on level its based on skill and I have some good teams
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6 RespuestasWhy would anyone do the hard raid with 31s?
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1 RespuestaGetting level 32 can be very hard. I have gained rewards as a warlock 8 times from the raid, and have only got boots and gauntlets. Which means if some1 with only 1 Character got bad rng rolls as I have it would take them 2 months. 1 Character doing the raid each week for 8 weeks is 2 months, so I'm averaging 1 piece of raid armor per month. This is awful........ Please fix this. ( Some people out there got full raid armor off 2 runs) Also it is now possible to get 3 pieces off 1 run with good rng. So why are my rolls always poop
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4 RespuestasLol Crotas end is gonna be near impossible on hard, you get a -32 damage reduction and they get a +40 damage attack on you xD
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1 RespuestaBring it on!! Can't wait.
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2 RespuestasIts ok to just get shards purely focus on leveling 1 character when it comes to raid gear. Titan has 2 of 3 pieces. Hunter 1 of 3. Warlock 3 of 3 and needs 16 shards before 32
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1 RespuestaTitan just finished his armor set and hunter and warlock just got their first so even if your only getting shards trust me they will help I still need about 20 to lvl up my Titan to 32 (side note I didn't find the raid gear for my Titan I wanted but since I found 3 pieces I changed from armentarium to glasshouse)
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5 RespuestasDo you know how easy it is to get to 32? Loot us dropping like candy out of a pinata and once you get Eris to 4 you can swap energies for shards.
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5 RespuestasCrotas end on hard will be legit. I hope they fix all the ways to cheese. It will seperate the men from boys.
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3 RespuestasYeah the level thing is -blam!-ed. I've had all 3 of my characters run the raid each week since start and I only have 1 raid piece on my hunter, 2 on my titan and 3 on my warlock. I pooled all my shards together and had enough to level up boots and chest on my warlock, I still need 24 to finish my gloves and chest. Then I'll have 1 level 32... I still have to get the raid pieces and the 63 shards per character for the other two... Dafuq bungie? Why don't I get radiant shards from night falls? Or from public events? Why only from the raid....
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8 RespuestasIf the hard raid isn't fun then no one will play it. I think it'll follow the model of the VoG, everything will be 32 with no revives like the hard VoG was 30 with no revives. Then once it's been out for 2 months they'll finally fix the exploits but leave the glitches in.