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YOU. EDITED. MY. COMMENTS. TO. ALTER. THE. CONTEXT. TO. BE. MORE. CONVENIENT. FOR. YOUR. ARGUMENT.
Do you understand what that means? That's the equivalent of holding a big sign saying "I give up". You lost the argument at your first post. By cheating, you have taken your argument, your dignity and whatever limited respect you may have had and thrown them all into a meat grinder.
A quote is a quote. You did not list quotes, you listed PARTS of quotes. You do not get to pick and choose which part of a quote "counts" just because you're desperate. You list the whole thing, or you list nothing at all. EDITING a quote by cutting off ANY part of it alters the context. In other words, you're cheating. Did you think I would just forget whatever I typed? You didn't even try to hide it. In fact, you admitted to it in your last post. You literally admitted to cheating.
You're a joke friend. Your attempts to change the nature of the topic failed. Your attempts to rile me by insulting me failed. Your attempts to prove your points about bladedancers and defenders failed. Your attempts to get me to quit destroying you failed. Your blatant attempt to edit my comments failed. You failed. You have failed with every post. I'd feel sorry for you....but, well...I don't. :)
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Yeah I didn't bother reading your dumbass rant since it doesn't pertain to the debate. Another one of your childish temper tantrums again. I have begun to expect nothing less from you. Very disappointing. Nothing is out of context to make it sound like you were saying something you agreed to when you disagreed. As in it didn't change your main point. Therefore the point is still clear that you had agreed. If you still feel like you haven't then I suggest you post the entire rant in question and point how how you didn't agree. I would really like to see you attempt this!!! You have won the daily award for the stupidest person on bungie forums. Congrats, mommy would be so proud of you.
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Didn't bother reading? At least you admitted it this time. You're calling somebody else "childish" when you've been resorting to name-calling for no less than 8 posts? Cutting off half of a quote "doesn't change the main point"? What world do you live in? You want me to repeat my "rant"? All right. Unlike you, I'm not afraid to show the whole quote. "Shotgun blast and melee? Funny how you conveniently overlook the fact that that combination also puts you in direct reach of the Bladedancer. Sure it's possible, I've done it. But you better land it right immediately, or you're boned. If you're relying on a shotgun-melee combo to kill a Defender in one swoop, then you don't know how to fight Defenders." - For this one, you've ONLY stressed me saying that it's possible in a technical sense to kill a bladedancer with the shotgun-melee combo. When pressed, you have NEVER acknowledged the incredible risk that puts on the person using said combo. In other words, you're trying to pretend arc blade is weaker than it is. "Heavy ammo is situational and specifically meant to be overpowered compared to other weapons. And if you're using rockets then you better be good at hitting a fast target at range, because if a Bladedancer gets close you're just as likely to kill yourself as well. One rocket won't destroy a bubble, that's true. Just like one GG shot won't. Funny thing though, people get more than one rocket and multiple people can get rockets at a time. I never said this threat wasn't situational, I said that it IS something to be aware of." - For this one, you have once again included only the portion where I "agreed" on one piece of what you said in a technical sense while trying to make it sound as if I agreed with your post as a whole. That's the equivalent of both of us agreeing that breathing air is a good thing. You completely overlooked the entire point of what I said in this statement - that just because it is situational does not mean you are "safe" from it. In other words, I "agreed" with one ASPECT of what you said, but I disagreed with your post AS A WHOLE. You however are apparently afraid of WHOLE posts. "Yes you deserve to die if you get pushed out of your bubble. At what point did I say otherwise? But it CAN happen, which means you MUST be wary of it, which means you are not "perfectly safe" from it. Read. The. Words." - This is the exact same situation as the last one, no need for a repeat. If you've already forgotten, then go read the last paragraph before this. "You're right about there being a difference in being able to safely defend a bubble (what I've been talking about) vs being naïve and thinking nothing will kill you inside ( which is exactly what you were saying before you realized that I actually knew what I was talking about). "If you're not stupid and someone doesn't use their super to destroy the bubble then it's perfectly safe". Does that quote sound familiar? It should, seeing as how it came straight from your fingertips." - I'll be honest here, I don't really know what you were hoping to accomplish with this one. Did you just not notice the additions where I pointed out that you were describing yourself with the second example? Or did you not notice me point out that your own words confirmed my assessment? And there you have it. My ACTUAL quotes as well as the exact reason why they are NOT agreeing with your posts.
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[quote]Didn't bother reading? At least you admitted it this time. You're calling somebody else "childish" when you've been resorting to name-calling for no less than 8 posts? Cutting off half of a quote "doesn't change the main point"? What world do you live in? You want me to repeat my "rant"? All right. Unlike you, I'm not afraid to show the whole quote. "Shotgun blast and melee? Funny how you conveniently overlook the fact that that combination also puts you in direct reach of the Bladedancer. Sure it's possible, I've done it. But you better land it right immediately, or you're boned. If you're relying on a shotgun-melee combo to kill a Defender in one swoop, then you don't know how to fight Defenders." - For this one, you've ONLY stressed me saying that it's possible in a technical sense to kill a bladedancer with the shotgun-melee combo. When pressed, you have NEVER acknowledged the incredible risk that puts on the person using said combo. In other words, you're trying to pretend arc blade is weaker than it is. "Heavy ammo is situational and specifically meant to be overpowered compared to other weapons. And if you're using rockets then you better be good at hitting a fast target at range, because if a Bladedancer gets close you're just as likely to kill yourself as well. One rocket won't destroy a bubble, that's true. Just like one GG shot won't. Funny thing though, people get more than one rocket and multiple people can get rockets at a time. I never said this threat wasn't situational, I said that it IS something to be aware of." - For this one, you have once again included only the portion where I "agreed" on one piece of what you said in a technical sense while trying to make it sound as if I agreed with your post as a whole. That's the equivalent of both of us agreeing that breathing air is a good thing. You completely overlooked the entire point of what I said in this statement - that just because it is situational does not mean you are "safe" from it. In other words, I "agreed" with one ASPECT of what you said, but I disagreed with your post AS A WHOLE. You however are apparently afraid of WHOLE posts. "Yes you deserve to die if you get pushed out of your bubble. At what point did I say otherwise? But it CAN happen, which means you MUST be wary of it, which means you are not "perfectly safe" from it. Read. The. Words." - This is the exact same situation as the last one, no need for a repeat. If you've already forgotten, then go read the last paragraph before this. "You're right about there being a difference in being able to safely defend a bubble (what I've been talking about) vs being naïve and thinking nothing will kill you inside ( which is exactly what you were saying before you realized that I actually knew what I was talking about). "If you're not stupid and someone doesn't use their super to destroy the bubble then it's perfectly safe". Does that quote sound familiar? It should, seeing as how it came straight from your fingertips." - I'll be honest here, I don't really know what you were hoping to accomplish with this one. Did you just not notice the additions where I pointed out that you were describing yourself with the second example? Or did you not notice me point out that your own words confirmed my assessment? And there you have it. My ACTUAL quotes as well as the exact reason why they are NOT agreeing with your posts.[/quote] "Shotgun blast and melee? Funny how you conveniently overlook the fact that that combination also puts you in direct reach of the Bladedancer. Sure it's possible, I've done it. But you better land it right immediately, or you're boned. If you're relying on a shotgun-melee combo to kill a Defender in one swoop, then you don't know how to fight Defenders." - For this one, you've ONLY stressed me saying that it's possible in a technical sense to kill a bladedancer with the shotgun-melee combo. When pressed, you have NEVER acknowledged the incredible risk that puts on the person using said combo. In other words, you're trying to pretend arc blade is weaker than it is." Agreeing is agreeing. I don't have to acknowledge the risk when it's still possible. Simple fact is: you agreed that it is possible. The rest wasn't relevant to you agreeing to it in the first place. "Heavy ammo is situational and specifically meant to be overpowered compared to other weapons. And if you're using rockets then you better be good at hitting a fast target at range, because if a Bladedancer gets close you're just as likely to kill yourself as well. One rocket won't destroy a bubble, that's true. Just like one GG shot won't. Funny thing though, people get more than one rocket and multiple people can get rockets at a time. I never said this threat wasn't situational, I said that it IS something to be aware of." - For this one, you have once again included only the portion where I "agreed" on one piece of what you said in a technical sense while trying to make it sound as if I agreed with your post as a whole. That's the equivalent of both of us agreeing that breathing air is a good thing. You completely overlooked the entire point of what I said in this statement - that just because it is situational does not mean you are "safe" from it. In other words, I "agreed" with one ASPECT of what you said, but I disagreed with your post AS A WHOLE. You however are apparently afraid of WHOLE posts." Weather you agree with the whole post or not it doesn't matter. You disagreed with one part yet you agreed with another. So again why post the irrelevancy of the rest? "Yes you deserve to die if you get pushed out of your bubble. At what point did I say otherwise? But it CAN happen, which means you MUST be wary of it, which means you are not "perfectly safe" from it. Read. The. Words." - This is the exact same situation as the last one, no need for a repeat. If you've already forgotten, then go read the last paragraph before this. You didn't disagree with anything so it's not like your previous comment. You made it situational. That's all. You never disagreed with the point. You're right about there being a difference in being able to safely defend a bubble (what I've been talking about) vs being naïve and thinking nothing will kill you inside ( which is exactly what you were saying before you realized that I actually knew what I was talking about). "If you're not stupid and someone doesn't use their super to destroy the bubble then it's perfectly safe". Does that quote sound familiar? It should, seeing as how it came straight from your fingertips." - I'll be honest here, I don't really know what you were hoping to accomplish with this one. Did you just not notice the additions where I pointed out that you were describing yourself with the second example? Or did you not notice me point out that your own words confirmed my assessment? Not sure with what you disagreed with here... Again you elaborated my original point then you made a statement about you "knowing" what your talking about, then quoted me... Don't see where you disagreed, yet again... So your efforts were wasted again. But it was a fun troll to see you go through that effort just to get shut down again.
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Effort? It me all of 10 minutes and that was just because I was also eating. Dude, your entire response to these just boiled down to "bu-but you DID agree with this one teeny little % of what I posted. That's all that matters because I say so, even though a baby monkey could see that your opinion is contrary to mine". Do you have any idea how pathetic you sound right now? You really weren't prepared for me to get the actual quotes were you? That's ok. A little more practice, and maybe one day you'll actually be able to convince an infant that arc blade is weak.
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Yeah bro... You agreed to the main points. It's done. It's proven. You're wrong again. Get lost. [spoiler]im growing tire of your retardation[/spoiler]
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...I "agreed" to the technical possibility of one while pointing out why it's an incredibly risky maneuver, and I "agreed" with one piece of 2 others while disagreeing with both of them as a whole. You sound so irritable, not at all as smug and confident as you used to be. You almost seem desperate to be rid of me. I wonder why that is...:) If you can't handle it, then stop replying. That's literally all you had to do for all this time.
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Can't handle what? Your stupidity? Yeah it's annoying... But it's also fun to laugh at. You can't handle the truth behind the main points. That's why you keep dragging it out. Nitt picking at words in a sentence rather than the main points. You're worse than a liberal in a debate. As for getting rid of you: 1. You have less "pros" on your side then cons. 2. You ignore half the game where it's intended to be used. 3. You agreed to my points then you change your mind saying you now disagree?!? But all you did was drag the points out further on how it's done or whatever while never actually disagreeing... 4. ETC... The list goes on and on
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The main points? You mean the ones where arc-blade is not even remotely the weakest PvP super and ward of dawn is not even remotely the strongest? Because that's literally the foundation of this entire conversation. It doesn't get any more "main" than that. You're going to look me in the eye and say with a straight face that you're NOT nitpicking, Mr. Edits-my-posts? Yeeeeeahh try saying that to literally anyone but yourself, see how they respond. If I'm "dragging it out" then so are you friend. You're just as guilty of hitting that "post" button. 1. Less pros than cons? List them, each one. Your point about "agreeing" already blew up in your face, so you may as well put salt on your wound. 2. And you ignore the fact that this topic is for PvP. 3. Changed my mind? Buddy, I'm going to say this once and I'm going to hope that it doesn't get lost in that big' gaping hole in your brain. I NEVER agreed with your POSTS. I agreed with a PORTION of what you said because that PORTION was a technical fact. You are OVERLOOKING the inconvenient parts of my quotes where I point out the flaws in your assessments and why the bubble is not as "perfectly safe" as you claim. You are behaving exactly as I said you would in my 8th post.. You would really rather pretend you're too incompetent to understand basic communication than admit your argument failed? You're that desperate to win something you no longer even have the option of winning? I'd say that I feel sorry for you, but I'd be lying.
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Weather or not you point out flaws doesn't matter. What I said was still true and you agreed. Get that threw your thick head. I called you out and I was right. Anyone can see that. Your phaneron is, in a sense, broken. I'm not going back to rehash what you already agreed to. You're butt hurt again. It's becoming pointless because you don't get it. You won't ever get it. Your mind can't be changed & you will believe whatever you want. Quite frankly your opinion doesn't mean shit since it's wrong in the first place. You're just too young and arrogant but can't back that arrogance up with any intelligence or debate skills to understand this. In short, leave your feelings off the internet. I know it's already gotten under your skin. I can tell it's really getting to you. Your responses say it all. So before you commit suicide... Bye loser.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This may just be the most idiotic post you've had so far. Where do I even begin? Let's see... Whether or not I point out flaws doesn't matter in a topic about PvP balance? lol and I suppose you think that what kind of fuel you put in a car doesn't matter either. I already pointed out that a PORTION of what you said is true, you are once again overlooking the fact that I disagreed with your points as a whole, just as I said you would. You're not going to go back and rehash my words because you know it will do more harm than good. Butt hurt? That's a good one. Do you have any idea how much I'm laughing right now? My mind can easily be changed if I think I'm wrong. But you and I both know I'm right. Believe whatever I want? You would be the expert on that, wouldn't you? My opinion is irrelevant, the facts I've listed have already proved my point. Keep in mind that you came into this topic saying that a super which grants a potential combination of damage reduction, one-hit kills, health regen, teleportation and tracking was "the weakest". Your very first statement was blatantly incorrect. You're saying I can't back up MY opinion? Let's see.. Your first statement was blatantly false, you attempted to change the nature of the topic on multiple occasions, you're STILL ignoring the risk of the shotgun-melee combo, you're STILL trying to rile me with uncreative insults and you've desperately attempted to get me to go away on no less than 6 occasions. These are tactics used by people who know they have no other hope of winning. I have no feelings to this topic other than my eyes acknowledging that I got a reply, the amusement of seeing another laughable reply by you, the sensation of my fingers typing out words and the indifference to this the moment I'm done. You think it's gotten under my skin? Friend, you are not that special. I laugh every time I see another round from you filled with petty insults, asking me to leave in a way that sounds as if you're not really asking, and using fancy words to make yourself seem smarter than you are. You're literally using the exact same strategy as 90% of people who end up in an online argument. You think it's getting to me? lol how many times have I asked YOU to leave? Go ahead and count, I'll wait. :)
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[quote]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This may just be the most idiotic post you've had so far. Where do I even begin? Let's see... Whether or not I point out flaws doesn't matter in a topic about PvP balance? lol and I suppose you think that what kind of fuel you put in a car doesn't matter either. I already pointed out that a PORTION of what you said is true, you are once again overlooking the fact that I disagreed with your points as a whole, just as I said you would. You're not going to go back and rehash my words because you know it will do more harm than good. Butt hurt? That's a good one. Do you have any idea how much I'm laughing right now? My mind can easily be changed if I think I'm wrong. But you and I both know I'm right. Believe whatever I want? You would be the expert on that, wouldn't you? My opinion is irrelevant, the facts I've listed have already proved my point. Keep in mind that you came into this topic saying that a super which grants a potential combination of damage reduction, one-hit kills, health regen, teleportation and tracking was "the weakest". Your very first statement was blatantly incorrect. You're saying I can't back up MY opinion? Let's see.. Your first statement was blatantly false, you attempted to change the nature of the topic on multiple occasions, you're STILL ignoring the risk of the shotgun-melee combo, you're STILL trying to rile me with uncreative insults and you've desperately attempted to get me to go away on no less than 6 occasions. These are tactics used by people who know they have no other hope of winning. I have no feelings to this topic other than my eyes acknowledging that I got a reply, the amusement of seeing another laughable reply by you, the sensation of my fingers typing out words and the indifference to this the moment I'm done. You think it's gotten under my skin? Friend, you are not that special. I laugh every time I see another round from you filled with petty insults, asking me to leave in a way that sounds as if you're not really asking, and using fancy words to make yourself seem smarter than you are. You're literally using the exact same strategy as 90% of people who end up in an online argument. You think it's getting to me? lol how many times have I asked YOU to leave? Go ahead and count, I'll wait. :)[/quote] There are many types of fuel my car can run on as long as it meets a min of 95 octane. The boost is to high to run anything lower. I can think of 5-6 off hand. I could even get away with running a lower grade with meth/h2o injection. You don't think things threw do you? Once again, you clearly state that you agree. You only made it situational or circumstantial which didn't negate the original statement meaning it's still true and you did agree. I don't feel the need to rehash anything because, unlike you, I know when it's pointless. You fail to recognize that much like you failed at this debate. You know I'm right but can't admit that to anyone but yourself. Just accept the fact that you are a loser and move on. The blade dancer super doesn't teleport. It's a lunge. It's the same as a titans shoulder charge. Both other classes have the abilities of damage reduction, one hit kills, tracking & health regen/over shield and it's not all pertained to their super. Which makes those classes as a whole more powerful plus a super. My insults are rather creative. Your rhetoric is sub par at best. That's why you resorted to attempt to use the same slanders I have posted. You're emotionally tied to this topic. Plain and simple. You're therapist will affirm it on your next session. They'll confirm you indeed have a case of vaginitis with a severe wound to your posterior that causes you plenty of pain. I never asked you to leave. It's been a suggestion that's in your best interest. You keep losing credibility with every post. I'm only trying to help save you from yourself.
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Situational and circumstantial? This coming from the guy who keeps trying to drag a PvP topic into the realm of PvE? Are you actually going to sit there and deny that? I can pull each and every quote if you wish. You know it's pointless....yet you keep coming back for more, making an even bigger fool of yourself every time. You're absolutely correct, I do know that I'M right. :) I see you are once again trying to get me to leave without actually asking. Is it that hard for you to say please? Or do you just not want to admit that you can't win what you've already lost? Ooooooh so it's a lunging motion instead of a pick-your-destination teleport. Excuse me for describing a movement where you rapidly blink in and out of sight in a forward motion as a "teleport". I made the mistake of assuming you actually knew something about the class and wouldn't be lost so easily. And you accuse me of nitpicking...pathetic. Same as a strikers shoulder charge? Funny, I've never been instantly killed just by a jumping motion. And I notice you are once again trying to bring strikers into an argument about bladedancers and defenders. You need to be more careful about what you post. At what point have I ever said Bladedancer is the strongest? I said it's not the WEAKEST. That's a very important distinction. This argument has everything to do with defenders and bladedancers and nothing to do with any other class. Just like this topic has everything to do with PvP and nothing to do with PvE. When are you going to realize that every attempt you make to change the nature of the topic to be more convenient for you will fail? As for defender vs bladedancer... 1. Damage reduction - Defender gets it IF you sacrifice weapons/blessing of light for armor of light and stay in a confined space. Bladedancer gets damage reduction for the full duration of their highly mobile super.. Which one sounds better to you? 2. One hit kills - I've NEVER seen ANYONE survive a single hit from arc blade without a defense buff. Defenders have NOTHING that can inherently kill in one hit. Go ahead and try to prove me wrong, you can't. 3. Tracking - Arc blade has it. You know who doesn't? Defenders. Unless you're counting standard melee attacks. Not like that would help your case, seeing as how they CANNOT kill in one hit. 4. Regenerating health/ shields - Congratulations!!! You named ONE thing that a defender MIGHT have a better time with over a bladedancer...as long as they can score a kill with their non-boosted melee that does no extra damage. Kid, Butt-hurt, whiney little preteen, simpleton, child, retard, chump, dumbass, childish, stupidest, loser and vaginitis are what you consider to be "creative"? You...do understand that you're on the internet right? When's the last time you went ten minutes in a public forum without hearing at least one of those words? Might as well try to call me a "dummy" to complete the package, you foolish half-wit of an individual who scrapes so close to the bottom of the barrel that I can no longer see your feet. Should I just go ahead and point out the MANY spelling and grammar errors found throughout your posts, now that we're being petty? I have no emotion to this topic besides what I've already listed and I have no therapist. I already pointed out the trick you've been trying to use to ask me to leave without losing face. You can deny it all you want, that doesn't make it any less true. And remember friend, you keep replying as well. :)
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[quote]Situational and circumstantial? This coming from the guy who keeps trying to drag a PvP topic into the realm of PvE? Are you actually going to sit there and deny that? I can pull each and every quote if you wish. You know it's pointless....yet you keep coming back for more, making an even bigger fool of yourself every time. You're absolutely correct, I do know that I'M right. :) I see you are once again trying to get me to leave without actually asking. Is it that hard for you to say please? Or do you just not want to admit that you can't win what you've already lost? Ooooooh so it's a lunging motion instead of a pick-your-destination teleport. Excuse me for describing a movement where you rapidly blink in and out of sight in a forward motion as a "teleport". I made the mistake of assuming you actually knew something about the class and wouldn't be lost so easily. And you accuse me of nitpicking...pathetic. Same as a strikers shoulder charge? Funny, I've never been instantly killed just by a jumping motion. And I notice you are once again trying to bring strikers into an argument about bladedancers and defenders. You need to be more careful about what you post. At what point have I ever said Bladedancer is the strongest? I said it's not the WEAKEST. That's a very important distinction. This argument has everything to do with defenders and bladedancers and nothing to do with any other class. Just like this topic has everything to do with PvP and nothing to do with PvE. When are you going to realize that every attempt you make to change the nature of the topic to be more convenient for you will fail? As for defender vs bladedancer... 1. Damage reduction - Defender gets it IF you sacrifice weapons/blessing of light for armor of light and stay in a confined space. Bladedancer gets damage reduction for the full duration of their highly mobile super.. Which one sounds better to you? 2. One hit kills - I've NEVER seen ANYONE survive a single hit from arc blade without a defense buff. Defenders have NOTHING that can inherently kill in one hit. Go ahead and try to prove me wrong, you can't. 3. Tracking - Arc blade has it. You know who doesn't? Defenders. Unless you're counting standard melee attacks. Not like that would help your case, seeing as how they CANNOT kill in one hit. 4. Regenerating health/ shields - Congratulations!!! You named ONE thing that a defender MIGHT have a better time with over a bladedancer...as long as they can score a kill with their non-boosted melee that does no extra damage. Kid, Butt-hurt, whiney little preteen, simpleton, child, retard, chump, dumbass, childish, stupidest, loser and vaginitis are what you consider to be "creative"? You...do understand that you're on the internet right? When's the last time you went ten minutes in a public forum without hearing at least one of those words? Might as well try to call me a "dummy" to complete the package, you foolish half-wit of an individual who scrapes so close to the bottom of the barrel that I can no longer see your feet. Should I just go ahead and point out the MANY spelling and grammar errors found throughout your posts, now that we're being petty? I have no emotion to this topic besides what I've already listed and I have no therapist. I already pointed out the trick you've been trying to use to ask me to leave without losing face. You can deny it all you want, that doesn't make it any less true. And remember friend, you keep replying as well. :)[/quote] You can argue semantics all you want. It's not helping your case. The original topic fails to cover pve. Again, it can't be ignored because it will be effected there as well. It's not my fault that you don't realize this. I don't have to deny anything I have written. However, you have made it a priority to keep denying the post that you agree to some of the main points. The second paragraph is a waste of time to reply to. I would just be feeding the idiot inside of you. It's not a teleport. It's not a blink. If you watch a blade dancer use it's super you would figure it out. It closely resembles the shoulder charge. [quote]Same as a strikers shoulder charge? Funny, I've never been instantly killed just by a jumping motion. And I notice you are once again trying to bring strikers into an argument about bladedancers and defenders.[/quote] I have no idea what the "never been instantly killed just by a jumping motion" if referring to or how it's related. The original topic isn't blade dancer vs defenders argument just like it failed at addressing pve. So it's logical to bring all classes/sub classes into the debate to accurately determine if any nerf is needed. Again you are making it situational. A blade dancer is only marginally effective in 50% of the game for it's intended use. All other supers have a better purpose in both. You're making a bad assumption to think I have changed the original topic without addressing the original topic . I have been addressing the entire issue that the original topics scope had failed to address (which is what I pointed out) & the original topic. Ignoring it doesn't help your cause to justify a defender being weaker in destiny. It only shows your points and arguments are weak. 1. Damage reduction is ideal for pve. Weapons of light isn't necessary & a over shield defeats the purpose of laying the bubble in the first place if you're just going to run away from it in pvp. It's all about area control. It works as advertised. I normally play control so a bubble would be more ideal in my opinion. It benefits the entire team. 2. I have had to "bladedance" some opponents twice because they survived the first hit. It could be because of lag or just a "missed" hit. Either way it happens. I have no need to prove you wrong on your claims. Your trying to compare a melee super to a normal melee while using a super. It's idiotic to begin with. It would be like arguing a blade dancer can't shoot guns while using the super. 3. I never claimed defenders had tracking. They don't need it for their super anyways. 4. Any normal melee (other than shoulder charge) requires two hits no matter the extra damage on a full health opponent. Even a headshot with the throwing knife (the only extra damage done by a gunslinger) doesn't kill in one hit & it's the hardest to use. No matter what there will be two actions required to kill a full health opponent with a non-super/non-shoulder charge melee. So I don't understand why you bring it up in the first place. Gaining an over shield is more advantageous than any bladedancer's normal melee regardless of the build. Both require two hits to kill. Some were insults, most were the truth. Weather or not you took offense is up to you. As for the last part, I already called you out on directing over to grammar as a argument. This isn't English class so I don't really care. I'm not getting paid or graded so I won't take the extra effort. Although I doubt anything is misspelled since I only post from my phone that autocorrects. There was never a instance where I had asked you to leave. It's merely a suggestion for your own benefit. No tricks involved. As for the delay in response: I have had better things to do.
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Good lord. You're still shooting the breeze? You're STILL trying to drag a PvP topic into the only place where you can have an argument for blade dancer being weak. You're trying to pretend an argument literally founded on defender vs bladedancer somehow has a damn thing to do with any other class and dude, your autocorrect has failed you. Horrendously. "YOUR trying to compare a melee super to a normal melee while using a super." That's one just in your last post. Stop relying on a machine to spell for you. I can give a more detailed breakdown later. Right now I have a new raid to get to.
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When did I ever care about spelling or grammar? Never...
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When did I say you did? I brought it up because you started grasping at the petty topic of rhetoric and creative insults. Y'know, anything to veer the topic away from PvP where you know you can't win. Anyway, you and I both know you failed this argument a week ago. You lost your momentum, now you're just boring and outdated. Have fun arguing with yourself, the one person on earth who actually agrees with you.
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Hahahaha, you brought it up like I would care. The only fails here is you not recognizing the flaws in the OP's post and not being able to open the discussion. Keeping it in a narrow scope doesn't paint a good picture. You'll figure that out one day