I see some level 30s riding on a high horse and call lower levels peasants. I will be level 30 soon, and I've taken time to help lower levels. I went through the story alone and had little to no help. Then again I had no help. I'm a level 27 warlock who is trying to finish the Vault of Glass, but when I'm not in the Vault I'll help people with their missions if they ask instead of them saying "invite me to your mission" if you want to do the vault level up to 25 and I'll see about having you tag along. I feel that level 30s turning down helping someone because of their level is pretty sad. You were that level one time wishing you had help. I prefer to help that person, and see them dance in joy, or copy me in a victory relaxing sit. It's like sharing a beer after a long day.
So don't be on a high horse because of your level. If you have the skill to back up your ego then brag, but till then stop with the high horse stuff. You're no better then the kid asking you for help. (the person could be your age too) Don't be selfish be selfless.
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1 RespuestaEditado por ChadPook: 10/27/2014 6:28:11 PMIdk about you, but after 20+ VOG runs I really don't want to spend any more time helping low level people who will most likely get 1 shotted and not really listen to mechanics/strategy. Your argument is that we were once low level and wished we had help. There were no lvl 30s at the time we first did the raid. We were always the highest level people in the game. We pioneered going through nightfalls and the raid first. I did the raid on normal first day with a team of all lvl 26s. We all grinded and farmed shards to get to that sought after lvl. Now low levels come badgering me with invs because they want someone to hold their hand and do all the work for them for no reward. If you are lvl 26, get a team of lvl 26s. I was able to do it back then and you'll be able to do it now.
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4 RespuestasEditado por jeb22: 10/27/2014 4:15:52 PMNever once as a level 25 did I wish I had help for VoG. VoG wasn't even on my radar at 25, and it shouldn't be for any 25's. (Unless you have a close-knit group of friends that WANT to bring you). Instead of relying on handouts from 30's, 25's should invest a little more time in getting 26+. Even being a casual you can get 26+ relatively fast and easy. Give 30's a reason to want to bring you!
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5 RespuestasHello Guardian, look at your Guardian, now back to me, now back at your Guardian, now back to me. Sadly, he isnt me, but if he got some fully maxed out legendaries, he could be similar to me. Look down, back up, where are you? You're being teleported by Atheon with a fireteam your Guardian could be like. What that in your hand, back at me. I have it, its the Vision of Confluence with Solar damage. Look again, the weapon is now a maxed out Ice Breaker. Anything is possible when your Guardian is like mine and not level 25. Im on a sparrow
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Do any of you guys fancy helping me with the weekly Nightfall/Heroic with my third character (level 25 Warlock PS4) with your level 30 master races? Many thanks in advance, PSN: Dam_Noir
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5 RespuestasLevel 30 = luckier than others getting the raid gear drops faster (no skill required) They are nothing special but luckier, that's all :)
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3 RespuestasEditado por Raider TCK: 10/27/2014 4:58:13 PMI am level 29, own all the raid gear apart from the boots. Beaten the raid 8 times, 2 of which on hard with no cheesing. I have the Vex Mythocast and have beaten the last 6 nightfall strikes. Many of them solo. I love getting raid invites, I don't know about you, but the Raid is the BEST part of the game in my opinion by quite some distance. Every time I go AWK in the tower I come back to 10+ messages asking me to raid or do the nightfall. I am never looking for new people to fight alongside. I take plenty of level 25-26 players through for their first raid.
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I waited until I was lv 28 to attempt the raid so normal was problem
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Level 25 is too low for the raid. One level 25 can be carried by the group, but a group of 25's will be murdered. The problem is that if you just hit level 25 you don't have the legendary guns that do the damage that you need, not the legendary armor to take it. Do want I did at level 22-26, grind vanguard marks. Do the daily at the hardest level you can do, to get the ascendant material. Grind patrols to get materials. Buy vanguard armor and guns. Join a clan or group to make friends and start playing as fireteams. When you hit level 26 start doing nightfalls with your group. Then you will be ready for the raid. Your first raid can be frustrating as you figure out what to do. But that is the fun of it. My group has the normal raid down, but is trying to work on hard mode. Our team level is 27-30. What makes the raid fun is teamwork. If people need help send a message not just a game invite. Sometimes people are in the middle of bounties or in a game.
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I have no issue helping but I do not have the time to teach people how to raid and continuously wipe while they try and learn, I have multiple characters to complete bounties and whatever else needed for that day lol. Raiding with lower levels takes too much time to complete. 25-30 minutes for a normal raid and 45-55 for a hard raid is a decent time to complete it. It's near impossible to do it that efficiently with lower levels who just can't put enough damage onto whatever enemy they're facing. Let alone finding people who understand how to not die.
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6 RespuestasEditado por Paneross: 10/27/2014 4:23:16 PMDo people even realize they can get to 29 without a single piece of raid gear. Maybe if you put some damn effort into leveling your chars we might be more obligated to help you. When I see a raid cleared from start to finish with all 25s then ill stfu. Till then, get Rekt.
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Don't feel bad, I was stuck at 28 for us most of three weeks
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2 RespuestasI'll absolutely help you with the raid. We'll beat it without a doubt. I have lvl 30 gear just not equipped. Im working thru the story now with another character. Would you be willing to help?
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Editado por Paneross: 10/27/2014 3:31:52 PMJust because some level 30s don't help randoms doesn't make them ignorant pricks. Some 30s will only help people they know/friends. That doesn't make them an asshole. Granted there are some out there who are high and mighty cause of their status, that's just life. Sorry if I don't want to give money to every single homeless person I see.... there's just too many. There is nothing wrong with only wanting to help people you know. Nothing at all.
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30's don't owe you shit. Simple as that. Not calling you or anyone below that out. Demonstrate that you know how the raid works and we might help you. Its hard helping a n00bly fireteam that just will not listen. The whole "Well if he can do it then so can I" attitude is bullshit. Some people just do not possess the skill to do certain events in this damn game. For example I could train every minute of every hour of my entire life and I know I will never throw a ball as well as Peyton NEVER. I am no way saying lvl 30's are the best players in the game, all I am saying is that not everyone has the same skill level and I promise you that there will be some out there that will NEVER complete the Vault because of the skills they lack.
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Editado por Paneross: 10/27/2014 4:24:19 PMI helped a bunch of nubs just last night. They wanted the 5th chest so we went the push templar off the map method. Relic holder decided he'd rather jump around and display his superman powers thus getting us killed multiple times. Wonders why I get all emo about wiping, can't comprehend that he's wasting peoples time because of him wanting to have "fun." They all thought he was funny, so I left. Take the game serious when the time needs be. That's why I won't help scrubs anymore. High lvls tend to focus on the game more and that shows in their lvl.
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Dafuq did I just read? Lvl doesn't mean shit lol
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4 Respuestas27 is not close to thirty. As well as saying 30's don't help other players, that's a lie. I help on the level 26 summoning pit all the time even though I have the thorn. As well as help on the VoG all the time. So get off your "high horse" and actually pay attention you under leveled scrub.
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4 RespuestasI'm sorry but inexperienced lvl 25s is not something anyone should deal with, at least be lvl 27. I got nothing against people who haven't done the raid but lvl 25 is too low I don't care how good you are, you will get ohko by everything
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1 Respuestawhere is this "High horse" you speak of, is it a replacement for a sparrow? if so where may i find a high horse.
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15 RespuestasI can't stand it any more! FIX THE -blam!-IN' TITLE! >There're, not Theirs! ... -_- It just... so annoying having to see that... just... I'm done here...
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No I was level 29 in the first week. There has never been someone above me for me to look to for help.
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1 RespuestaThe peasants are trying to revolt lol Off with their heads!
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I just turned lvl 25 yesterday if I could come that would be great!
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<insert grammar joke here>
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2 RespuestasHow dare you breathe the same air as me, peasant.
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Yeah. You are not entitled to help. Make friends and work with them. But you don't deserve anything just for playing the game, especially other people's times.