The shotgun is over used in the crucible, nearly everyone you come across is using it.
This was the same state the autorifle was in, right before they nerfed it.
Many argue that the shotgun is not OP, even though the far majority of people use it.
They argue that it is only effective at close range, which is true.
The problem is, the majority of maps, are close range encounters.
Even in the big maps, the control points are stuffed in small areas.
The maps make the shotgun the most effective weapon to use in nearly all encounters.
Another argument against nerfing the shotgun. Is that you die from it because you we're stupid enough to run at the person.
When in reality, the majority of people you come across with shotguns.
Don't camp in corners, they [b]RUN[/b] at you.
Then the last argument I have seen, doesn't even argue against the fact that shotguns are OP.
They simply say something along the lines of, stop crying and use one.
Then what was the point of spending all that money creating the pulse rifle, auto rifle, scout rifle, fusion rifle, sniper rifle, and handcannon.
Another nerf is coming to the shotgun, it shares all the same signs of all the other weapons that were nerfed before.
Edit 1: They are buffing the vex mythoclast for pve only.
I think they should do the same to shotguns, when was the last time you saw a person bring a shotgun to VOG?
Edit 2: Some people mention why not make bigger maps.
The only two options are either rework one weapon, or rework all the present maps, and possibly all future maps.
Which ones the more costly time consuming option?
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I love when someone rushes me with a shotgun, I whip out my fusion rifle that fires nearly instantly and melt their ass, please give me moar kills lol
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I'm scared that any nerf to shotguns will make Universal Remote even more useless
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I think the shotgun feels like it should. But also, with such tight maps, it also feels like the most obvious option. The right thing to do is better map design in the future. But a nerf is the easier answer.
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1 RespuestaSo many cries for nerfs. We might as well all buy nerf guns and just start shooting each other with those..... But then someone will want those nerfed too....
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1 RespuestaWhile I agree that there are an over abundance of shotguns in Rumble, I don't see them that often elsewhere since they were [i][b]already[/b][/i] nerfed along with the auto rifle. However it makes sense that there are so many in Rumble as its supposed to be more fast paced, free for all action. Why put 6 people on a huge map? They would spend half of every match just looking for one another. Yes, shotguns are one shot kills within the effective range. That's how they're supposed to work. If you nerf them again there'd be absolutely no point in even using them at all, PvP or PvE. Really the only answers I can think of for everyone's issues with shotgun is either adding a couple more maps that aren't so cqc based or reducing the amount of special ammo people start with and the amount they get from ammo crates. Making them weaker is not the answer.
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1 RespuestaI think bigger more expansive maps would help. I would love to see 64 player BF4 style maps with tanks and pikes!!
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3 RespuestasIm not for any Nerf for any weapons but in my experience the fusion rifle is used more and more OP then shotguns
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I'm a fan of the bigger maps idea, maps are confined so much that using a shotgun or fusion rifle seems like the obvious choice. There needs to be more areas where sniper rifles would be the go to secondary.
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1 RespuestaThey should buff shotguns, I can't use my universal remote in nightfall. I have to get really close and thats a death trap wahhhh!
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2 RespuestasEver been shot at by a shotgun? They happen to be fairly effective at a range beyond your fist
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2 RespuestasNot only can you still be killed from like 15 feet away in one hit, but the fact its a secondary used as a primary is annoying. Nerfing isn't the answer, limiting the secondary ammo is.
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4 Respuestas[quote]When in reality, the majority of people you come across with shotguns. Don't camp in corners, they RUN at you.[/quote] THEN RUN AWAY (preferably while crying like the little bitch you are...) I'm also going to dislike this shit, because you bump your topics like some insane mother-blam!-er... (39 bumps, are you kidding me?)
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I don't pvp much but damn! Shotgun is ridiculous. One shot dead... And no, not at Point Blank. I mean right thru shields,, right thru health bar. One shot. Yeah.
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It's not the weapons, it's the small maps. And a shotgun does not make a great player...I know from personal experience, lol.
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I really hope they don't Nerf the shotgun again. People just don't understand, it was never op it was overused cause of the maps!
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5 RespuestasI don't even use shot guns and I don't think they should be nerfed what a joke some people are taking it to far when I run across some one with a shot gun that blows my head of I'm like shiiiiitttt you got me not a big deal that doesn't mean because you die by a shot gun it needs nerfed it just means you got killed by some one using a shot gun get over it
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Nerf sprinting bungie!!! Everyone is doing it. It's overused and serving it's purpose correctly.
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Honestly shotties are not that great and in pve they are just terrible....the autos are still in wide spread use so the nerf did nufing cuz simple fact is suto give best dpm and in pvp dpm is were it counts.... sure hawkmoon and some other hand cannons are good and scouts have a place but autos pretty much outshine them in all pvp areas....same with fusion rifles and rocket lanchers....were in pve theese guns while strong ant always 1 shot kills in hard content and the more they nerf the harder pve gets while pvp gets easyer lol
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I've killed many shotgun peeps with a fusion rifle cause they ran straight at me lol. Everything you've said I've said many times over. They're over used not OP and the maps are made for mid-close range. Shotty is the BEST weapon in CQC in ANY game. People need to stop with the tears
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They're going to make universal remote beyond useless with another shotgun nerf. I was looking forward to using mine with my future titan. However, this current nerf has discouraged me from being excited about it. Unless they only nerfed secondary shotguns?
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7 RespuestasYou know what half the problem is with people complaining saying certain guns and abilities need nerfing.. Half the problem is the player not the equipment. The game gave you armour and guns to use, everyone has the chance to get and use the same weapons If you choose not to because you prefer a scout rifle or hand cannon over a shotgun or pulse rifle then that's your problem And choice to do so, don't suck so bad in the crucible and the problems solved
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1 RespuestaEditado por Bad suka: 10/28/2014 10:18:11 AMSeriously? My poor old invictus has already suffered one nerf I don't think it can handle another one. I don't see what people's problems are with shotguns in pvp it's not like we can use them and pve and we will continue to use them until people learn not to run around corners. Also people run at you with a shotgun because it's the last thing you expect.
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Editado por joda910: 10/28/2014 11:35:52 AMShotguns are overused because almost all maps are close quarters. If you are using scout or sniper in close encounters then you're a fail and better go back to Mario. Almost no one uses shotguns on moon. The problem is in maps not weapons. Right not it is almost impossible to one shot kill anyone with shotgun unless you put your barrel to his chest. On average it takes two shots in close range. You need good awareness to play shotguns, whenever I am on the open or have more then 2 meters to a target I am insta kill by AR. Stop wining about shotguns and start asking Bungie to add lot more medium and long range maps. Play any other game like CoD, Battlefield, Kill Zone and in all this game shotguns one shot kill everyone in close range. Only difference is that those games have lot bigger and more diverse maps.
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Maybe its just bad player skill and not the gun
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1 Respuestai prefer fusion rifles over shotguns. i just hold down the trigger of my pocket infinity. im currently working on exotic shotgun bounty