So I got to thinking the one thing I missed in here was listing some actual solutions. Instead of extending this thread I made a new one for this which can be found here http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/74170850/0/0/1 So on one hand you say "matchmaking for raids won't work because you need a strong organized team to complete the raid" On the other hand you say "we're going to completely randomize the encounter so strategy is out the window" These are in complete contradiction of each other and make no sense. You are giving the players so few choices that your open world plan (even though it's not open world) is becoming very linear at an alarming rate. Why can't I strengthen my fireteam by playing my role? Why should I have to play according to a very restrictive set of rules? Why can't I sit on the very sniper perches that your snipers do? Why are you micro managing my experience and sucking what little joy is left out of this game? Honestly can you not see that with every patch you guys are driving a wedge between your player base and the game? It has to stop. Like anyone still playing I want destiny to succeed so bad. It literally breaks my gaming heart to see something with so much potential be killed by it's very creator. With every patch you have further diminished the PVE co-op experience almost to the point of me wondering why am I still bothering to care about this game. I don't speak for everyone and won't pretend to, but I would like to think I have my finger on the pulse of the people I know and play with. The reception to these kinds of patches isn't good. My whole clan is one decent game away from washing our hands of Destiny. I don't want to but it seems that I will soon have little choice. I'm a grown ass man with a family and I'll be damned if I let someone else tell me how to play a game I paid for. Strategy isn't a bug it's a well thought out plan for success. Pushing him off is a bug, moving my fireteam to a tactical position to gain an advantage is not. I've tried to be as cordial as possible with this and hope you take the time to relay this to the people who make these terrible decisions but my instincts tell me it will fall on deaf ears. DEEJ I implore you to convince these people to stop before it's too far gone and the world of Destiny is a story of what could have been and not one of becoming legend. Edit: from the tremendous amount of likes I've received on this post it would seem I have my finger on the pulse of YOUR community as well DEEJ. you know why? Real gamers know what real gamers want. Maybe those devs are coding geniuses but they obviously have 0 clue about enjoyable experiences. Someone in that studio has to stop being a yes man and simply say "enough". Edit 2: the overall support of this is very humbling. It's nice to know I'm not in the minority here. I think we all want the same thing and that's a better destiny. Be heard people, make sure your words have weight. We are the reason they live out their dream jobs. Stop the madness Bungie, your player base has spoken. Final edit: I really am blown away by the positive response here. I didn't really know it was possible to get this many voices saying the same thing in gaming anymore. That being said, if Bungie lets this patch go through I will personally consider this to be willfully neglecting the will of the players. I will trade in my destiny for dragon age. I know I'm just a raindrop in the grand scheme of things but massive amounts of water carve mountains. I encourage you all to abandon this and make a statement that as the consumer we won't be pushed around any longer. If you don't I understand, but we together can change this game by standing as one.