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10/14/2014 8:01:04 AM
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Why the patch was justified! kuddos to bungie
Howcome people think the Nerf was only for pvp? Yes it was PVP-complaining which got Bungie's attention to the gun but you the nerf was also needed for PVE. The gun was grosly overpowered, decimated everything in PVP AND PVE. That is not the way the game is meant to play. You're not supposed to kill stuff twice as fast because you have a "rare" gun. A gun which breaks PVE isnt okay just beacuse it was "hard" to get (The raid isnt hard, so please stop using that argument..half of you didnt even do it the normal way but used "Smart gameplay")
Why do you people want overpowered guns? It's like me asking for the Ice breaker to be able to use AMO and reload..it's not gonna happen because the burst dmg would be to high. It's the same for the VEX a full auto Fusion rifle with that impact and fire rate and dmg was INSANE in pve. Whatever you aimed at died.
the game is supposed to be balanced across the BOARD. Not just pvp but also PVE. Guns/skills which break PVE and basically make stuff a lot easier is not balanced! So stop blaming "pvp", PVE also asked for that nerf and i'm happy to see Bungie saw it that way too. They obviously tested it and saw how crazy strong the gun is.
The templar fix was also needed, yes it was "Smart-gameplay" AS LONG AS IT LASTED. A fight is created and meant to be played a certain way. That was the challenge. Standing at a platform and unloading a boss for 15min is not a challenge and the WAY the devs wanted you to experience the fight. Yeah great for you guys who did it that way a couple of times, but it got fixed stop crying and addapt. If it was me i would have had people on the platforms get cursed if they stand there for over 5seconds.
Players will always look for the easy way out, that happens in every single MMO. there is not 1 fight where the community didn't find a trick to make the fight easier and overcome the game-mechanics the devs put in place.
BUT all those fights ALWAYS get fixed, this is no different. When you find an easy way, use it but know that it will get fixed. And when it does...dont cry.
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6 RespuestasDo you not -blam!-ing understand the word "exotic"? They are meant to be super powerful you ignorant twat.
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1 RespuestaStill 2 body shots to a dreg, 1 shot to a shank, 3 shots to a vandal, 2 shots to a hive thrall, 2 shots to a hive acolyte. 3 shots to goblins, 2 shots to harpy, 3 shots to hob gobs, 3 to cabal grunt, 1 to cabal light-armor guys, 4 shots to shield guy, 3 if to head. only time you will notice the difference is on rares, and bigger mobs like servitors, captains, minotuars, colossus, knights and wizards People need to stop blowing this out of proportion.
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I did not see one person complain PvE based
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8 RespuestasMan talks sense, well done.
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1 RespuestaExcellent post. And for those that may wonder: I have the mythoclast. Some of us see the bigger picture.
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Spot on... + 1
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1 RespuestaYou guys are ridiculous. This gun was the gun to rule all. now its gonna be another auto rifle.. clap and be happy because you didn't get it, see its greatness, then get it stripped from you because people complained. people complain about everything. Why is bungie catering to these whiners?
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Fk u u motherfuker lemme patch ur mum as she needs nerfing too.
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I noticed the kill area for sniper platforms in the hotfix notes. It won't matter, in three hours a new technique will come about that makes it easy also.
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4 RespuestasI agree with the above post and hot fix in general. We all knew before purchasing Destiny that it was an online only game, with a continuing and ever changing environment. almost comparable to league of legends, its been out for what 4 seasons now? You cant even compare season 4 with season 1 or 2, patches happen very regularly and champions are buffed/nerfed and inevitably some people lobby. Bringing this back to Destiny - its going to evolve, change, and sometimes even go full circle on itself because not only has the game only been out for little over a month and is still having 'growing pains' but this kind of balance changes is NECESSARY for an online only game to stay interesting and current. I am sure that my favourite weapon or armour will be nerfed hard during my time on Destiny, probably more than once - but then you accept it was probably donen for a reason, give Bungie the benefitof the doubt, (if they think the changes were bad they can always change it back - this happens all the time with online only games, especially LoL) and move on to whatever was buffed and you may even like it more than your old fav weapon or armour. :)
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You took the words out of my mouth - said everything I was too lazy to type.
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2 RespuestasExotics are supposed to be op. They should be almost impossible to get. That being said, there also needs to be a clear and distinct separation made between what you can earn in pvp and what you earn in pve. The rewards from each playstyle should be of benefit to that playstyle, and not be available as reward from the other.
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2 RespuestasSo the Vex was grossly over powered? Now the most difficult gun to get in the game, if done properly, has nearly the same stats as an Auto Rifle everyone bought for Strange Coins? Totally justified. You're 100% correct. I don't even have one and think that nerf is far too extreme.
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1 RespuestaExotics are suppose to be powerful in PVE, I can understand the PVP balancing bit.
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3 RespuestasThe vex mytho wasn't grossly op in pve though. Now the gun is completely dead in pve. Shoot when it came to hard raid it was more efficient to run with gjalgahorn (not sure on the spelling of the exotic rocket launcher) and either the scout or AR with one of the sniper rifles from the raid to complete. Vex ammo was small, now it's going to kill 3-4 less with the same amount of ammo, that's a lot in pve.
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Editado por NeroAngelo: 10/14/2014 8:52:27 AMmostly agree , but come on , in the VMC case it was a gun you get for winning a hard raid , so basically you are probably lvl30 ... most content in the PvE game is MAX lvl20 in patrol and lvl28 if you're doing modified strikes ... it makes sense someone that strong should steam roll said content ...
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Agreed. Now leave the crybabys alone. They need a day to calm down and see that the nerf doesn't hit them as hard as they think. They only read the nerf but not the buff. Kids stay kids kkthxbye
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This game/forum needs more positive people like this guy!
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1 RespuestaThis guy gets it. Also, am I the only person that regularly plays both PvE and PvP?
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As someone who doesn't really care what they nerf/buff, I think this hotfix is justified. The outcry on this forum regarding nerfing certain weapons has been outrageous. They finally implement it and everyone's going nuts? I can see a situation where certain weapons are stronger/weaker for 1-2 week periods, forcing you to adapt in a constantly iterating quest for perfect balance. This is good news.
