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Editado por bungo pls: 10/9/2014 5:53:53 PM
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Hold on, Playstation gets an entire extra strike?

Alright, so there has been no end to people complaining about the game being carved up, stuff being removed for DLC, etc. Most of it I agree with, but I'm still enjoying Destiny. Now, I've known there's Playstation exclusive stuff. I get it, you don't like Microsoft and Sony/Activision threw a bunch of money at you. (So you immediately go and sign up with [i]Activision[/i] after getting out of your MS contract? But that's another rant.) But an entire Strike? Let me get this straight. You're punishing [b]your paying customers[/b] by withholding content in a game where lack of content is one of the largest complaints, simply because they're playing [b]your game[/b] on a system made by a company you're a bit butt-flustered with and are open to taking a bit of cash to mess with? You're mad at someone, so you take it out on those loyal to you? That's pretty messed up. When you're creating a game, you need to be asking yourself "does this thing I am investing effort in benefit the players." And if the answer is "no" - as is the case here - then there is no reason you should be doing it. None. [b][i]Edit:[/i] For those asking, the strike is Dust Palace on Mars.[/b] [b][i]Edit 2:[/i] Since apparently some people still think the console wars are a thing, I'll add that this post is not about Xbox being better or deserving anything; it is not about us vs you or we get this exclusive and you get this exclusive. I would be making this post no matter which console I personally play on. We are all gamers. I do not segregate based on platform, gender, race or creed and neither should you. This post is about excellent developers wanting to create excellent products for their excellent customers. It is about the growing acceptance of developers intentionally going the extra mile to do things that very specifically are not in their customers' best interests.[/b] [b][i]Edit 3:[/i] Alright, this post has kinda blow up and there are a couple common themes I'll address here rather than constant replies: [/b] [b]1)[/b] [i]"But Bungie already sold out with Halo being XBox exclusive, this is just more of the same!"[/i] No, it's actually not. Now, I'm going to have to swallow my pride here, because as a long time PiD-Marathon-Myth Bungie Mac fanboy, I was pissed at the time. But at the end of the day, [b]it was done with us, the customers, in mind.[/b] With the funding they received from Microsoft, they were able to turn their small but impressive MacWorld demo into a full fledged, gorgeous game. And (while it pains me to say it) with the newly emerging Xbox console, they were able to reach a fan base far greater than they ever would have on the Mac. Compare that to the "exclusive" content here. We have stuff developed and then roped off for half of the player base, for no reason from the customer's standpoint. We have zero benefit here. Bungie is now a well established company. They are backed with hundreds of millions. The additional cash provided by small exclusivity bonuses no doubt had little bearing on the final product that is Destiny. This is the difference. This is the problem. [b]2)[/b] [i]"PS4 deserves it, go suck a nut you Xbaby"[/i] I already covered this, but apparently people don't read? Maybe if I type it twice. We're all in this together, guys. We don't need to segregate ourselves into petty communities based on the logo on the front of our plastic box. We're all gamers, and we all want the best experience possible. So drop the juvenile tough guy act. Sonic and Mario put aside their differences ages ago, you can too. [b][i]Edit 4:[/i] TL;DR "Console exclusive stuff is just how it works, what can we do about it?"[/b] We can let the people making the games know that we don't appreciate being carved into groups and set against each other like a corporate dog fight. We can voice our opinions on forums meant for feedback, like these ones right here. [b][i]Edit 5:[/i] BEHOLD, the Ball-Pit Echo-Chamber. Should you find your comments enclosed within its walls, then I fear you have missed the point of this thread entierly.[/b] [url]http://i.imgur.com/9DCo2JT.jpg[/url] [i]Grasp at the netting and fight for air; there are those of us who would assist you in escaping its confines, should you so allow us.[/i] If you need proof of the divided community that these sort of things create, you need look no further than the replies to this post.

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  • It's just business. It's not about fan loyalty or, or console wars. Bungie wouldn't have made the deal if it didn't benefit them in some way.

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  • well the game cost 500 mill you think bungie did that for free? write sony a strongly worded letter telling them how wrong this is see what they have to say about it

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  • I heard the strike wouldn't run on xbox one. Not enough power.

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    • Why is everyone whinning about this. Both ps and ms have had games only for their consoles as well as content exclusives. So how is there even a bases to complain here.

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      • I agree 100%. +1 to you. (I have put my off topic rant in a spoiler below).[spoiler]Honestly, they shouldn't have made destiny for last gen consoles (PS3, xbox360) that was just a waste of time that could have been spent improving on other things in my opinion.[/spoiler]

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      • First off this is not bungie's fault complain to activision. But it doesn't really matter cause match making seems to only give you nexus mind and valus ta aric

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        • I love this post there is just 3 exotic hand cannons in the game and i can only get two and of those two 1 sucks so bad and the other one i could jerk a genie and not get it even then the hawk moon is ssssoooooo much cooollllleeerrrr

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        • I like how you said "butt flustered"... totally irrelevant, and I sound like a child, but I don't give a shit. That's funny and I have to tell everyone that I think it's funny... anyways, I agree with you. Honestly, I thought Xbox had exclusives of its own , but I guess not. I mean, I'm sure it's not Bungie's fault, maybe it is, but I'm thinking this is something that they make all the cool stuff for PS, and -blam!- Xbox. If you ask me, that's kind of unfair... imagine a friend who plays PS asking you if you've beaten the Dust Palace strike on Xbox yet... I'd imagine your response would be something like "the what Palace?" Nobody's probably gonna read this anyway, so I'm just gonna not post this... ah crap, I hit the post button, nothing I can do now...

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        • Anger is far from my mind when I think about the extra goodies Playstation users get for Destiny. I am a creature of curiosity. I spend my time bouncing around tiny ledges on the edge of the map to see what there is to see, I instinctively seek the high ground so I may overlook all that there is, I launch my Sparrow off every cliff to see how far I can fly before death, and my questions about the Dust Palace Strike are as follows: Is it fun? Are there any interesting segments? Is the Boss Arena especially fun to fight in? Does it have any exclusive rewards?

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          • Editado por Celoxamortis: 10/17/2014 4:31:34 AM
            To be fair, this is much more pervasive than this instance and it spans most digital entertainment. For example, most popular modern music releases have "exclusive tracks" that are tied to retailer. Buy the physical album from Best Buy, get "exclusive" track A! Buy the digital album from Amazon MP3, get "exclusive" track B! Buy the digital album from iTunes, get "exclusive" track C! Buy the physical album from Walmart, get "exclusive" DVD with live content! All the content has been recorded with the intention of having it on that album (or in this case, in the game), but it's roped off to create the bogus perception of a "value add" from buying from your favorite retailer. It's all a big marketing ploy to try to get consumers to double dip on purchases just to have "all" the content, and it's getting particularly bad in gaming. Not only are they walling off "exclusive" stuff for specific platforms (on multi-plat games) but also for specific retailers. Case-in-point: Watch_Dogs and the two bajillion versions that were out at release... Edit: I wrote this not to simply say "this is the way it is, deal with it" but rather to point out that this anti-consumerist practice is happening across almost all digital entertainment media. If consumers want it to change, we have to stop buying into these ploys. Otherwise they'll just keep on truckin along, carving out content (and slowly removing any bits of our remaining consumer copyright protections) and calling it a "bonus" for consumers...

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          • To be honest buddy the strike is annoying, you are lucky it's not in your playlist.

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            • After the DRM shit Microsoft tried to do with Xbox One, making it into an entertainment system with a sprinkle of Game console I jumped out of Xbox consoles (Even though Fable 4, The controller, and Halo 5 are things I'll miss)... I can see where your coming from. The year lock out is ridiculous. I would say a month but, that isn't even reasonable really... The Dust Palace just makes it 6 strikes in an already repetitive game.. No story to even care about, bounties that repeat... The real insult is the timed exclusive Activision has on the extra content locked out on Earth and Moon.. Its there... we just have to pay 35$ for it... and wait for December and.... March or April.... for the extra strike on Moon and Earth.. plus a couple "story' missions... and maybe a Raid...

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            • More than just destiny, this post has really made me reconsider what it means to have console exclusives. I own an xb1, only because my friends also play xb1. Every game is on every console, except a few good single player games. (Last of us, for example) But even kingdom hearts 3 is multi platform now, so it really doesn't matter which console you pick. We all get the same games. I guess things like destinys sixth strike are consoles way of making it matter which "team" you choose, but it only withholds content from your fans for no reason other then perpetuating that this war still exists when it clearly does not.

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              • Seems like a big f*** you to those who bought a 360 just for halo. To Bungie, we're moneybags more than fans.

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              • I agree. Giving PS users exclusive fancy looking gear, a couple exotics, even a pvp map isn't a big deal to me. Playstation has been getting shafted on exclusive deals for a long time. But an entire strke? That's the wrong decision Bungie. Strikes provide a large portion of the story lore and the gameplay experience. Removing any 1 of the strikes I've played, makes the story make a lot less sense. I really wish the console wars would end. #EndTheConsoleWars

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              • This is not a Xbox Vs. Playstation this is Bungie Vs. Microsoft so until Bungie or Microsoft steps up and says why there really is no point in even talking about it cause it would only start a fight that no one can win till Bungie or Microsoft speak up.

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              • Oh but we had to deal with all the other xbox exclusives for dlc and such for cod and minecraft and other things so for the first time xbox doesn't get the deal and sony does and you cry and complain... Welcome to what PSN users have been dealing with for years so I have no sympathy for whiny xbox players

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                • I dont know about your argument... All I know is Microsoft is a shite company. I'm glad Bungie hates them as much as I do. If you'd have gotten a PS4 instead maybe you could play it. It ain't Bungies fault you bought a Xbone.

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                • xbox got halo one of the best games out there ps4 got destiny wich is 50/50 game .... so tell me again why are xbox fans crying so damn much

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                  • Well also Bungie help design the PS4 I believe so there shouldn't be a problem having exclusive gear for [u]one year[/u] the gear itself is extremely hard to come by so it's like it isn't there and it's only one strike so it's not a big deal.

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                  • Playstation got an extra strike mission in Destiny, Xbox got the entire Halo franchise, who is really losing here?

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                    • Editado por IIDREDDII: 10/9/2014 8:46:37 AM
                      Hey you forgot, we PS4 owners have exclusive weapons ex. Monte Carlo Exo AR and Hawkmoon for a year :-D Honestly I'm fine with it, it's no different than what MS has done for the last ten years with COD getting everything a month earlier than PS. They are timed exclusives every thing we have you guys on Xbone will get next fall haha lol so don't worry be happy :-D

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                      • Don't forget playstation gets two exotic weapons us on Xbox don't, being proud owner of a monte carlo in real life I want to have the gun namend after it too but noooo I needa buy a playstation for that

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                      • As a Playstation player I'd like to chime in that I think console exclusivity is the downfall of the gaming world. There is no damn reason on Earth Xbox players shouldn't have this strike other than some stupid contract with Sony. There are series this drives me absolutely mad - like Assassin's Creed - they have different bonuses for every region and console, and it makes it impossible for one to experience the 100% full game. Withholding content ain't cool. Withholding the absolute easiest strike in the game from Xbox players, just as uncool.

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                        • Why are people bothered about playstation getting some exclusive content when xbox get the dlc for call of duty a mouth before playstation does, and what does it matter xbox is getting the exclusive content next year so I dont get y people are getting annoyed at this

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                          • I love you. I wish people realized honestly "system wars" only benefit the company's ... Not us. We are all loveing this game and other games so this exclusive content should not be a thing

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