Hey there :P
The first thing I have to mention is that I am from Germany. During my last job interview I was told my english is "pretty bad".. so please forgive me if it's not easy to understand what I am talking/writing about D:
I am not going to flame, but when I read that Destiny will have no matchmaking for raids, because.. "reasons".. I was disappointed. It's because I don't add everyone who crosses my way to my friend list. To be honest.. there are only people in my Xbox Live friend list that I also know in real life. Also, a lot of my former "Xbox Live friends" still do not have current gen consoles, while others split into two camps.. PS4 and Xbox One. I own both consoles but prefer my Xbox One for multiplayer features. I could also buy the PS4 version of Destiny, but the problem would be the same for me.
What's the problem, you ask? My friends lists aren't huge. Even if every one of my friends - on one system or the other - would buy Destiny (which is not going to happen, I guess) it would be hard for me to get all of them to play at the same time. I know my luck.. as soon as I would have gotten enough friends to go on a raid, one of them starts suffering some issues with his connection or something like that and this whole raid can't even start.
Now I am worried that I won't be able to see all this raid content of the game. I know.. it's my "fault", because I don't accept strangers in my friend list.. but still.. it's a disappointing news for me.
In the end the devs can tell me what they want, but.. the most important thing is not "communication / only with friends".. it's skill. If you now what you're doing everything is fine. Destiny is after all nothing more then a shooter. As long as there are no Portal-like puzzle elements that can only accomplished by 6 players together everything should be fine.. at least in my opinion.
What's going on with Destiny is excactly the same thing I hated when they released "Halo 3: ODST". I loved the idea of this games firefight mode and I was really looking forward for it. But when the game released I only had 7 friends on Xbox Live, most of them did not own the game. Thank's to that I only had the chance to play this mode a few times with one or two friends together. Why? Because Bungie decided that Halo 3: ODST's firefight mode should also be a "friends only"-thing. Now they are doing the same thing again. That mode was my main reason for buying that title.. and I couldn't really play it :-/
I hope this whole matchmaking situation will change in time. Forcing people into adding everyone they meet in their friends lists isn't the right way. You know what will be the result of that, do you? Play a MMORPG, stay guildless for a while and you will see. You will get spammed with guild invites. I am sure we will all get spammed with friend requests in Destiny. At least that's one of my other worries that I have because I've seen something similar in many MMORPG's. It could get pretty annoying if every second person you meet sends you a friend request, just so you can go on raids together.
That's at least what I think about this whole situation. Good thing I am more interested in PVP than PVE, but it still disappoints me..
So.. and now.. please don't flame me :D I just wanted to talk about my personal opinion and give some feedback. I face my old ODST-situation once again. It means for my that I am - for now - someone who can not go on raids. If Bungie releases new raid instances I will not buy them for this reason. If raid and pvp dlc's are combined in one package I'm sure I'll think twice before I'll buy them. Give us some matchmaking and I'll buy everything without hesitation :P :D I wouldn't be suprised if there are other peoples with similar thoughts about the matter.
Allright then.. mission accomplished, now I am out :) Have a nice day guys ^^
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your english is fine, anyway im sure you're aware that current gen consoles use dedicated servers right? you will be in games with countless people that are generally in your country or countries close by like the netherlands or belgium, that either share the same interests or speak german. now the matchmaking part, if you take bungie's word on how hard raids are i'm sure you'll agree that you wouldn't want to go in one with 5 strangers that probably don't have mics, or speak proper english or whatever reason there is that they might be unsupposting during the entire thing even tho i'd doubt anyone would pass the raid with strangers. also there's the chance of an asshole getting matched in with you that just joins for the sake of ruining everyone's experience, a griefer, or if you're familiar with the deranking principle that was a huge problem on halo 3, not that there is anything to derank for in destiny but the point is that they'll not do what they're supposed to do in a raid. Bungie has clearly stated that it's impossible to finish a raid with less than 6 people wich would indicate puzzles or roles for 6 players and 6 players only. i could go on for a while but i'm sure you're able to understand where i'm going with this. matchmaking for raids would be a terrible idea and nobody should ever want for something that is this timeconsuming and requires everyone to equally play a part in this activity.
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No matchmaking for Raids because they've said that Raids are entirely too tough for random people to match up for; they'll take a huge commitment in time and most likely won't be all in one session (tho of course i'm sure some teams will attempt it all at once)
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At the start you said your English wasn't great. But you actually did better than most of the English speaking people on here. You even used paragraphs, good shit dude! :)
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2 RespuestasI thought no matchmaking was bad at first, but now I like it. You get matchmaking for strikes, and have lots of playtime before you get to the raid, so you can meet like minded people on the way, people who have similar play times to you. Enjoy the game, and you should pick up members for your fireteam on the journey.
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All you gotta do is get a bunch of gamer tags from people on this forum. Play with them in a raid and then after that it's up to you. You can delete them and never talk to them again, or keep them on your friends list and play with them again. There you go, home-made matchmaking at it's finest. You're going to play with strangers either way, this way is slower but actually more personal, and if you expect to complete the raid, you're going to need to get a little personal with the other 5 people you'll be raiding with. It's not going to be a lone wolf type deal. Teamwork makes the dream work!
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First, your written English is not bad. Second, you clearly don't like it, but it's time to start making friends. I'll most likely lone wolf a BUNCH, but I plan on adding anyone I find with any skill, so *we* can conquer all the things!
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Join a clan