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Editado por oh ver driive:
8/13/2014 4:10:47 AM
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OMG new trailer is terrible, deej, where are these gametypes coming from? Clarify small team tactics!
No territories
No ctf
No koth
No 2v2?
Not even trolling.
Just says small team tactics with revive. Wtf does that mean?
All noob gametypes no competitive player would bother with.
Edit************my response to deej
by no means do i not appreciate the post, but just because i expect normal gametypes to be in different games by no means does it mean im asking for a game i have already played. I personally see gametypes like ctf, territories and koth as standard gametypes i would love playing in all my favorite games including smash brothers, armored core, cod, rainbow six, and any mp fps game. These are standard gametypes that are a part of the fps world and have nothing to do with which game they are in. Not including them is no different then leaving out any other key component of matchmaking. Your own game, halo, is going to have more versatile gametypes than your destiny. Explain that. How does 343i put together all your own work together within months and come out with a better mp experience than something you guys worked on for near a decade?
Control is an amazing gametype and an awesome new spin to slayer. The better slayers are always going to win however and that means it is just that. Slayer. Forcing conflict by adding control points is just a way of creating conflict between players otherwise the moon could of played much differently and not limited to 6 players camping on the outskirts of the map.
Changing names and putting spins is no big deal and i welcome change but lack there of does not make sense. You cant sell me on change by not including it what so ever. The battles worth winning are battles where i can say the other team gave it thier all. Part of using known gametypes is the players know w hat they are fighting for. To often am i the over skilled player killing the other team to the point where i hope my teammates get bored and start playing the objective.
In short, I want evolved gen and not a gen that is replacing another gen. Add on to what we have. We are all buying the game anyway. So do w/e your company feels like doing. You got my 60$. But when we all want the same thing and the dev doesnt deliver what am i suppose to think Deej??
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20 RespuestasI'm just going to throw out an opinion, that I haven't seen on this thread, in regards to why I think koth or territories aren't included... I'd like to see a ctf, but I'll deal. In control, since that is the ONLY mode we have seen, it is fairly easy to get a multi kill by using a FoH, or Nova Bomb on the control flag capture zone..... So, why would they want to put a game mode in that specifically only pushes players to be within a small capture area? My opinion is that a game mode like that would turn into a Super fest, reallllllly fast. Because you get more points with more people in the capture zone/hill, the entire team( or at least a few people), would be in the zone, making it super easy to get a FoH or NB multi, which then fuels the next Titan/warlock, to be able to do the same. Rinse and repeat. Now we go back to the "SUPERS ARE SO OP" argument... But not here, so stop. Lol I understand that it could possibly even out a bit with some Defender titans, but overall, the game mode just doesn't seem to fit very well with the way destiny is built, given that the core FPS mechanics ARE in place, but with some tweaks. I'm sure I'll get flamed by people for this, But this is an honest opinion, and while I was originally bummed as well, after I thought about it a bit.... I think bungie made some educated decisions, since they have had success with those game modes in the past. See all you ps4 guardians starside! (No hate for anyone else tho! )
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Playing Destiny for it's multiplayer matchmaking is not really what the game is focused on... I for one will probably not play that much of the multiplayer and live in the MCC multiplayer instead lel
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132 Respuestas"I want a next gen game that is exactly like the other games I have played." There are many familiar elements in the Crucible. Control is very much a scenario that has you defending fixed positions for score magnifiers. We'll be talking about the rest all week long at gamescom. The names have changed. The scenarios are new and nuanced. The battles will be worth winning.
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5 RespuestasI'm surprised deej even wasted his time replying to this
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"we all want the same thing" Bruh, 75% of the responses honestly believe you are trolling. But ok.
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You are trolling.
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[b]LET THE GAME COME OUT[/b] You don't know what the game types are so you assume they're "noob" game types? Has Bungie gotten it wrong yet? Please give me that example. What are you supposed to think? hmm, maybe that you should, once again, let the game come out. Don't like that? Maybe how when COD did team tactical it was a bunch of different Game modes... "small team tactics with revive" ohhh I get it now. That can't mean anything good there's no way & it's gotta be noob city cuz revives. You know... I'm sorry I said anything I see your logic now All that high powered guardian action, no one wants to see that, I'm more worried about the words I've already seen. Terrible trailer Can't believe they were so vague it's like I don't even have the game yet... And where were the modes that have been with a different Game through it's entirety with this company? Deej and all them can't believe they're shying away from their proven formula, look how well sticking to it forever has worked for Call of Duty. And seriously I really can't believe there isn't 2 v 2 either. 3 v 3 just isn't the same And that relics mode? Psh no way that plays like King of the Hill, they must be trippin Don't they know the game comes out in a month I need to see & know all the modes already Halo 4 was perfect why didn't Bungie do exactly what 343i did? Who else has seen the light? We gotta get our game modes back guys! [spoiler]I seriously don't know where in someone's mind they draw these conclusions, especially that Halo 4 was an improvement in the Halo series, but apparently it happens[/spoiler]
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[b]LET THE GAME COME OUT[/b] You don't know what the game types are so you assume they're "noob" game types? Has Bungie gotten it wrong yet? Please give me that example. What are you supposed to think? hmm, maybe that you should, once again, let the game come out. Don't like that? Maybe how when COD did team tactical it was a bunch of different Game modes... "small team tactics with revive" ohhh I get it now. That can't mean anything good there's no way & it's gotta be noob city cuz revives. You know... I'm sorry I said anything I see your logic now All that high powered guardian action, no one wants to see that, I'm more worried about the words I've already seen. Terrible trailer Can't believe they were so vague it's like I don't even have the game yet... And where were the modes that have been with a different Game through it's entirety with this company? Deej and all them can't believe they're shying away from their proven formula, look how well sticking to it forever has worked for Call of Duty. And seriously I really can't believe there isn't 2 v 2 either. 3 v 3 just isn't the same And that relics mode? Psh no way that plays like King of the Hill, they must be trippin Don't they know the game comes out in a month I need to see & know all the modes already Halo 4 was perfect why didn't Bungie do exactly what 343i did? Who else has seen the light? We gotta get our game modes back guys! [spoiler]I seriously don't know where in someone's mind they draw these conclusions, especially that Halo 4 was an improvement in the Halo series, but apparently it happens[/spoiler]
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I agree with having more variety that we are accustomed to in Halo, but I also know that Bungie is known for adding new things to their multiplayer all the time. So be patient and just enjoy the game for what it is now, and realize we are all as Destiny players in good hands.
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Screw your criticism man, this game looks amazing.
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I feel that CTF, KOTH, and 2v2 are necessities. Like come on Bungie! Your the reason why these gametypes are so desirable. Brings back great Halo 2 memories.
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You know what would be great? An only supers mode, or an ability to create your own rules.
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Wait I'm confused. Is it the lack of the older common modes that he's lamenting or the new ones? It sounds like both. It's the mindset the demands a sequel to a game then dislikes said sequel because it's more of the same. I'd think Destiny is like a wedding; "Something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue (never understood that part.)" Just familiar enough to be comfortable, but a complete copy and paste. But what's vexing is that we have yet to try these modes and there's a complaint already. At this point another saying comes to mind "If you try to please everyone, you'll end up pleasing no one." Everyone isn't going to be happy. Alot more people will be happy than unhappy with Destiny, that's all I can say (at least reading all the comments from after beta)
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1 RespuestaIn my opinion.. The maps and gameplay make the multiplayer. Halo 4 has all of those game types (I think?) and it still sucks. You can't really say anything about destiny pvp until you've seen it all, which none of us have.
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Editado por Phil 421: 8/13/2014 6:54:21 PMMy Breakdown of what I think the Crucible modes are: Skirmish: 3v3 Tactical battle. TDM No vehicles Revive enabled Rumble: Free For All (No explanation needed I think). No vehicles Salvage: 3v3 ? No clue what capturing salvage points does seeing as we saw no multipliers or any sign of how many points you've captured. Also he was gaining points just for kills like the other game modes. No vehicles revive enabled Clash: 6v6 TDM Vehicles spawn? (showed a vehicle in a clash match but announced it as Combined Arms) Combined Arms: 6v6 TDM on large maps with vehicles. Control: Domination/TDM capturing points only increases score multiplier does not determine the winner. Vehicles So far it looks like nothing but variables of TDM. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
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How about we actually wait till the game is out, for about a week or two. Then make decisions based off what we have seen then. Trailers dont do anything true justice, hands on experience is loads better :).
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3 RespuestasBest multiplayer trailer I've ever seen.
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3 RespuestasDude... I had a hard time reading that and not just seeing... "Why isn't this game halo" which is not a valid complaint or argument.
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It's not halo.
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6 RespuestasSeems like your just another child that calls themselves a gamer when you really only play one type of game. All your examples are basing game styles off halo multiplayer. This is a different game! Did cod have a 2v2 no because it would be stupid. Which other fps game had a good koth cant think of any. You basically saying that halo was the end all and be all of the fps world.. it wasn't pull your head out of your ass and try other games before making a general statement. Try battlefield or cod even there's crysis as well if you want. Counter strike is another example. Do everyone a favor and expand your game knowledge before bitching. Oh and cap the flag is kinda like search and destroy except you actually have to do the objective not just try and kill everything. Get some skill stop your bitching and don't base an entire genre off one game. Thanks and have a fantastic day!
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Jesus Christ you're ignorant.
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6 RespuestasWow you really think you are that amazing don't you you don't understand the meaning of the word objective do you you would rather have a high k/d than play the game type
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15 Respuestas"Too often am I the over skilled player" 1.8 kd
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9 RespuestasTerritories = Control CTF= Salvage potentially KOTH= play control its better than normal king of the hill 2v2= Skirmish is 3v3... is that too many? If you arent trolling.. you surely are misinformed If you would like to find out what they mean.... do some research... it was a reveal trailer.. not an informative documentary There are plenty of gametypes that competitors will play.... so take a tissue out... and understand that when they made this game... they didn't give a -blam!- about your whiney ass... they made the game they wanted and 4.6 million people played and enjoyed it. High five to being awful ~Huff
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1 RespuestaSkirmish seems like it will be the container for the objective games, other than Control, which strikes me as Generator Defense mixed with Territories. I have confidence in the Bungie team, but I do hope there is an Oddball type (maybe tossing a relic or a dead/dying Ghost around?). The supers also seem to lend themselves to a Juggernaut type as well...can't wait for more details to come out this week!
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Just my humble thought, game types could be added later. It's not an unusual thing.
