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publicado originalmente en: Starwars Vs. Startrek
8/4/2014 7:31:32 PM
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Star Trek. But only one faction would win in the Trekverse. The Borg would Pwn all. Mostly machine, they are immune to the Force, their shield change to make them immune to whatever kills a single drone. Then, as each ship, each bit of technology was added to the collective, every drone is upgraded. As soon as a Jedi was assimilated, they would all have lightsabers. As soon as the Death Star fell, all Borg Cube ships would have super lasers. It would take time to assimilate Star Wars masses (its a ginormous universe) but they would eventually prevail.
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  • Hmm I expected just votes but got something better. Also the whole immune to the force thing, can they not be lifted, then thrown, by an (almost) infinitely strong force that's only weakness is the user dying? Forgive me if what I just said was ignorant to anything StarTrek because, while I don't hate StarTrek, I prefer StarWars solely because I was introduced to that first. I Also know that Starwars MOST LIKELY took ideas from StarTrek, The Dune book series and many more things that came before it, I just like it for nostalgic reasons.

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  • Star Wars got its inspiration from the adventure serials from the 1920's and 30's. Flash Gordon, Rocketman etc... Force Push would be a weapon, as would lightning in the beginning. But as soon as one drone falls to it, the others all adapt so they wouldn't. The Force is still an energy field, and as such would eventually be shielded against. People just don't realize how badass the Borg is. The Trek universe barely contains them, and only one species can take them head on, Species 8472. I didn't bring them into the fight, as only very few fictional universes could handle them. They really do ROFLstomp the shit out of everything.

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  • I really, really don't want to start a fight but how do you become immune to being lifted up then thrown as the force is not mechanical/technological and is not actually touching the thing being thrown? I get the force shock immunity because that is actually using something you can defend against but regular force lift/throw really isn't defendable against unless you possess the force yourself, and since robots/cyborgs can't use the force.. Yeah.. Once again I'm not trying to start a fight I'm just confused as too how they are immune to that specific force "attack"

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  • Refer to Obi Wan's speech to Luke about what the Force is. "The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together." Energy Field. Which means that it could be filtered out, shielded against, or even manipulated. The Borg already control Gravity, Inertia and can manipulate the Strong and Weak Effects (that's how they transport and travel through time) so how hard could the Force be? At a minimum they just need to shield their drones from it. At the maximum....Drones that can wield the Force...

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  • Oh that's kinda cool actually.. I guess, but I am sticking to the whole cy[u]borgs[/u]/robots can't learn how to use the force

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  • Actually many Sith would be counted as cyborg. Vader definitely.

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  • Yes but his powers were severely effected ( he could not do certain force things other than the basics: force choke, throw,etc)

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  • Still pretty powerful. Darth Malek also was more machine. Machines can't use the Force, cyborgs can.

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  • At this point your getting out o my knowledge of StarWars, while I do like it, I prefer the actual movies/ TV series that have developed from it and am into the books that the new movies will most likely be based off of but anything before Episodes 1-3 I've only either read while looking up something on Wookiepedia or my very little playtime of SWTOR

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  • Then I don't think we can say Vader was underpowered. Just from what we saw in the movies, Jedi have: -Precognition -Jedi Mind Trick -Telekinesis -Heightened Reflexes -The ability to hold their breath a long time -The ability to run really fast and jump really high -Force lightning. These are the only powers that are actually shown in the movies. Only Palpatine and Duku were shown capable of Forec Lightning. Vader lost the reflexes, speed and jumping, but retained everything else.

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  • I guess *cries in corner after being beaten down by superior research skills/overall debate skills* :p

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  • Its OK. Star Wars is still winning in the polls.

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