You prefer the less convenient, more frustrating and less user friendly age of a game. And prefer it over the more convenient methods of today. As well as disliking other options. That makes you a hipster. It wasnt an insult, sorry if you took it as such, but thats what you are. Also, you dont have to be good to be an elitist, you simply have to refuse to accept that because it was less then convenient for you, not everyone else has to suffer too.

Well wouldn't you liking the matchmaking option make you anti-social? Because instead of looking for people, talking to them, asking them for their help you want the game to set you up with people who you most likely won't say more than 3 words to. So this makes you anti-social. They have matchmaking for strikes and pvp so you can do that. They made it non MM for raids to make them feel like the game has something special after you've completed the story. Just like how they have a low lvl cap but have special equipment to find and upgrade after the cap. I don't know if you're an anti-social person but you're reasoning on my point of view says you are.

Wanting the matchmaking system isnt the same as not wanting it. I dont want matchmaking forced on you, i just want it as an option. Like, if its 3am my time, and none of my friends or clan are on, but i want to raid. Its an option. Thats the point. I want an OPTION. I dont want it forced on people, that just turns out terrible any time that happens (seriously, how many games have people asked for private matches, yet they arent implemented?). Youre refusing that OPTION. It doesnt stop anyone else from using it, and it doesnt stop anyone else from NOT using it. And just because i want Matchmaking, doesnt mean that is all ill ever use. Also, how the crap does not having Matchmaking make something feel special? THERES LITERALLY NO DIFFERENCE, only Non matchmaking means that its a pain in the ass to get in at times of the day. AKA, youre telling me that the actual RAID isnt that special, only the fact that you got INTO one is. Its obvious you arent properly reading my comments, because if you were, you would have been perfectly aware that i was asking for an option. Nothing more, nothing less. Even if you have MM it doesnt stop people from organising their own group. And personally, i PREFER 6 friends working together. Ive always preferred it, being a PC gamer, its why i so enjoyed steam. And if you honestly think matchmaking is anti-social, then you are just as foolish as the OP. You obviously never played Left 4 Dead Expert mode, (back near release when there was a lot of people), PayDay2 overkill, or various other challenges. YOU MAKE FRIENDS FROM THEM. Unless people literally go out of their way to ignore the other players, then you WILL have some social interaction. Maybe if bungie made it so you had to have your controller mic plugged in and turned on for it to allow you into MM for all i care. I just want the option. That is all.

The whole anti-social thing is just a version of your statement earlier. Like I said I don't know who is or isn't anti-social I was just making a point from you calling me a hipster.

Your 'anti-social' was flawed. My hipster description was not. wanting to play with people outside my small knot of friendsIS NOT anti-social. Hating more convenient designs purely because its not longer inconvenient for everyone else IS hipster. Also, UNLIKE you, i wasnt saying people should HAVE to matchmake. You however are saying that people should NOT be able to. Two vitally different things. Im asking for both. Youre asking for ONLY the option that suits you.