All my buds are on 360 I have moved to XB1. Instead of worrying about no match making for raids I set to work straight after the beta and set up a top little clan to do strikes PvP and Raids. It only took a little motivation, hard work and using the tools Bungie has provided and now our Clan is 30 strong and growing. Anyone who has done a Raid knows that unfortunately [b]Raids just don't work with randoms[/b]. They work with groups who develop tools, tactics and skills to beat the hardest levels yet. My advise - don't waste time asking for Raid MM, set up a Group or join one and get your Raidin' pants on, you will be so glad you did :) All the best gallp13 Admin [b]ANZAC Raiders[/b]

[quote]The Current state of game ( as of Beta ) does not promote friendship or teamwork. In the beta you are not able to directly speak to members in the world expect for 4 emoticons. [/quote] I believe this is the solution, and more importantly the answer to one of Destiny's largest problems, rather than adding matchmaking. If you've played World of Warcraft post Patch 4.3 (where Looking for Raid was added), you'll know exactly what will happen when you get people matchmaking for difficult stuff. It has to be designed to be beaten, or at least give almost certain success. If you look at WoW's LFR tool now, you can see just how many things have been needed to be done to make it [i]doable [/i](let alone easy) for 25 people who hate each other's guts and would solo it if they could. WoW doesn't have the best gaming community, but it wasn't exactly strengthened by the LFR tool. Adding that to Destiny, while it may be convenient, will make raiding far less enjoyable because it's been made to cater to people of hugely varied skills, whereas raiding now is aimed at the hardest of the hardcore. Raids are going to be about three to six hours long from what I recall, so picking up groups casually is only going to lead to them dropping out casually as well. Granted you have to stay for the entire thing to get anywhere, but finding people and travelling to the instance itself is just a small part of the commitment required. Gear inspections, knowledge of your teammates' capabilities, roles, talents and subclasses and various other things aren't going to be learnt through matchmaking - this requires time and intimacy, something Matchmaking cannot do. Not only would having the chat functions make raids easier to organise, but it would also make meeting new people a whole lot better. To find a clan to raid or generally play with I have to go on the website, apply there and then add people through Xbox Live (or PSN) - none of that is done in the game, and I'd appreciate it if it was. I'm all for making raiding accessible without having people jump through hoops, but matchmaking isn't that way. Increasing chat functions and social interactivity is, and it solves a long term problem with a long term solution.

I think this could be solved with the wave function. If you wave at a player and they wave back then it could add them to a party. This way people in the tower can party up for a raid rather than go through 3 different menus and end up doing that over and over until you get a raid party set up. No one wants to waist an hour setting up a party so they can get locked into a 2 hour raid. That's 3 hours of time some people dont have.

Heres what you do. Play Crucible, find a good player, check there stats. If they are good, message them and friend them for raids. If a player is good at multi, they'll be way better in PvE.

about the no Matchmaking it is good this way the reason they have it this way is so that u take some effort to find people who have the time and spirit to do the Raid, in the begining most Raid groups will fail but later on players who did do it a few times will offer there help to new players and then the ball will start rolling and more and more players will be able to do the Raid u just have to give it some time i am not worried at all. and about the difficulty i hope it is really hard but fair like in Dark Souls. everyone sould be happy u get a great game lots of different things to do and u have to learn to master your skills then finaly when u are level 20 as far as i know u will be able to attend to the Raid's at that point u know how to handle your Guardian and maybe u also did find some others who did play with u some Strikes and other Co op parts of the game then some of them also want to try the Raid. so Tada there u have your group and the Fun and exiting experiment is going to start so don't be so negative and give it some time. for those who need more PS4 Buddy's u can add me PSN id FreakGIB Timezone GMT+1 Amsterdam i have a mic and speak English i did finish Demon Souls Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2 so i am not one who wil quit easely i expect nothing less from u

I think no MM and no in-game chat is pretty odd considering it is supposed to be a social game and it really breaks immersion to have to log on to bungie.net to use the forums that only around 65% of the player base will follow. I think they should add some sort of LF raid chat channel or make MM for raids require a group of 3 to queue and match with another group of 3 as one poster said before. It's a middle ground for each side and I think it would be something worthwhile to look at. Not everyone has set playing schedules and friends that can conform to your own schedule.

Idk man. I think no MM is better. I will only be able to raid once in awhile, but it will make it that much cooler. Maybe gather up all the friends for an every other week raid or something. I like the social element that could build from this. Besides, PvE and PvP are always available when not enough friends can play Destiny. Also, can u imagine the frustration if MM was an option an either people bailed in the middle or no reason or because they did not PLAN their time well. Raid is designed for planning and for social gathering. I like no MM or I am at least willing to give it a shot as it currently is.

Disagree. I love that it is non matchmaking and friends only. This is a social game, go make friends you hermits. The party sizes are so small I am afraid I am going to lose friends because I can't play with them all.

If you want to meet somebody in-game you merely have to point your reticle at them to get the option to interact with them. To include sending a group invite. Once you're in a party together, the game automatically puts you into game voice-chat. So you CAN talk to other guardians. It just takes a little effort.

I agree. If you need people just invite capable randoms you meet in game or join a forum group

MM would be nice for those who would choose to use it, i probably wouldn't myself, but right now bungie feels that MM on raids wouldn't give the experience they're trying to deliver, and I doubt that will change before launch.