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Editado por DroppedEP: 5/21/2014 12:46:30 PM
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Be specific. Christianity says that God created man equal as His image. Now lets start with this. People [b][i][u]are not[/u][/i][/b] born homosexual. It is not genetic. If a child came to the world, it is either male or female. Period. Now there are people who believe that they were born in the wrong body. That's bullshit. In life there is no such mistake. God created man to carry the qualities of a man and God created woman to follow the man. So you are saying God is imperfect? That God is non-existent? You said it yourself, you don't know. But how was this world created? Can you think of an answer? You might (or might not) think of the Big Bang Theory. Now how was the Big Bang created? You don't know or anybody knows. So that would mean that someone in a higher power created the world and Christianity says God (and other religions say their god). Now why do religious people 'hate' homosexual couples? First, they do not hate them. Hate is a very strong word for it. They despise them. Second, it is against the human nature. If man and woman were created to have sex and give children, explain me how in the mother-blam!-ing world are gays/lesbians going to procreate without using help from the outside? You can't find an answer! Therefore, being homosexual is wrong. Now to finish this, I am not a religious man. I know a lot of things. I have homosexual friends, and I like them. But that does not mean that i agree with their sexual orientation. That's that. I personally do not agree with homosexuals. I'm a guy and I think it is -blam!-ing gross to sleep with a guy. Smh. [spoiler]Hate me, if you like. I do not care :)[/spoiler]
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  • I see that you started something.

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  • Gj dude ROFL

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  • 1. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal]Humans count as animals.[/url] Unless you define animals as "every animal besides Humans", that is. 2. Homosexuality isn't any more of a choice than being Alcoholic, being susceptible to Cancer or any other disease, such as heart disease. Since I don't want to go look through my Psychology book for a citation, and I feel that won't be received well, I'll just say that there are genes that have been shown to correlate with homosexuality in men. 3. Following the premise that God created Man, that doesn't mean that Man is flawless, if you've read the Bible at all, then you can't deny this. Either the Bible invalidates itself, or it's possible for people to feel they were born in the wrong body. 4. This, I just don't know what to say about this. [quote]You don't know or anybody knows. So that would mean that someone in a higher power created the world and Christianity says God (and other religions say their god).[/quote] "Nobody knows how everything came to be, therefore God created everything". I'm more-or-less Christian, and I'm offended by this kind of illogical thought. 5. You say they don't hate them, and that hate is a strong word. You then say they despise them, which is an even stronger word than hate.

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  • You didn't read every reply, did you now?

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  • Read most, your answers seemed inadequate.

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  • Care to explain?

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  • Aside from #5, you haven't provided a coherent response to those questions. You didn't answer #1, 3, or 4 at all. For the 2nd question you just said "Indeed" when a person said that you can't simply wake up one day and choose to like the sex you're not attracted to.

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  • Since I am replying through the phone app, sometimes it does not tells me if someone replied or not. I will review everything that I said and posted later, for I am busy at the moment. [quote] For the 2nd question you just said "Indeed" when a person said that you can't simply wake up one day and choose to like the sex you're not attracted to.[/quote] I thought she said something different. I looked back and saw that she edited her comment. She must've discovered a typo and edited. I have edited my answer as well.

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  • Editado por Pheonix: 5/21/2014 6:06:22 PM
    I like how your whole argument is invalidated if I simply don't believe any higher power exists (which you didn't actually provide evidence for). It's all just circular logic.

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  • Editado por Sprüngli: 5/21/2014 5:50:44 PM
    Did you know animals can be homosexual? So, if homosexuality is a choice, does that mean other animals have free choice, sentience? By your logic, other animals should have equal rights to humans. The bible says that we own animals on Earth, so there is a great big contradiction. OpinionDiscarded.jpg

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  • This is false they can't be homosexual. Every animal that shows homosexual behavior only does this in confusion, inexperience as a way to relief stress in the group as sex realeses calming hormones. When ever animals get in heat they will always target the opposite sex, invalidating your whole argument, gays are NOT natural

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  • It's well known homosexuality is an evolutionary trait used to lower breeding rates, your opinions are centuries out of date

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  • Editado por Oak_Khan: 5/21/2014 6:27:49 PM
    That theory is sooooooo dodgy and not widely regarded. Also how stupid do you have to be to believe that crap?

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  • How stupid do you have to be to believe in the bible? If you want to continue believing lies and fables conjured up by monks over a thousand years ago over scientific evidence, be my guest

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  • I don't believe in he bible. I believe there is a God and that the bible is a collection of accounts of peoples interaction with God. I believe in scientific facts as they in no way disprove Christianity

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  • Except Dinosaurs Homosexuality being natural Magically parting waters Etc... The things the bible talk about are not real,they are moral stories, and that is fine. But saying homosexuality isnt natural is like saying herbal medicines are not natural

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  • First off how do dinosaurs disprove Christianity? Second homosexuals are not natural, their like people with down syndrome. They are born that way but their not natural. It has been proven that the water in that region can part with the perfect wind conditions. Yes a lot of stories in he bible are written metaphorically but tht was so that even generations after it's creation we can still understand it. I mean imagine God explaining physics to Moses?

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  • [quote]First off how do dinosaurs disprove Christianity? Second homosexuals are not natural, their like people with down syndrome. They are born that way but their not natural. It has been proven that the water in that region can part with the perfect wind conditions. Yes a lot of stories in he bible are written metaphorically but tht was so that even generations after it's creation we can still understand it. I mean imagine God explaining physics to Moses?[/quote] 1.Well according to the bible the Earth is 6000 years old, not 6 billion 2.If they were born that way then it is natural, it needed no alteration 3.True, but then Moses did not do it 4.So then the bible is a dumbed down version of a dumbed down version of a lie? Lel

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  • Editado por Oak_Khan: 5/21/2014 8:26:23 PM
    1. The bible never claimed earth is 6000 years old, God said he made the earth in 7 days but he also said a day to him is like a 1000 years to us, back in the day saying a 1000 years was a way to say a really really long time. 2. They are like people with downsnydrome, they are born that way but they are not natural 3. Moses never did it he asked God to do it. Do you honestly think that was a coincidence? 4. The bible isn't dumbed down it is used to get a core message across at the same time written is such a way that deciphering it is not lost throughout the ages

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  • Your reply is so full of assumptions and a lack of knowledge it doesn't merit a counter-arguement

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  • orrrrrrr you dont have an answer lol. its fine though most athirst dont know how to reply when a Christian actually knows what their saying.

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  • You have no idea what you are saying though, it would require an entire academic paper to correct your stupidity, im too lazy to write dozens of pages right now

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  • Oh My stupidity? Says the guy who brings up outdated theories and can't back up his points. Lol keep pouring in the excuses

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  • [quote]1. The bible never claimed earth is 6000 years old, God said he made the earth in 7 days but he also said a day to him is like a 1000 years to us, back in the day saying a 1000 years was a way to say a really really long time. 2. They are like people with downsnydrome, they are born that way but they are not natural 3. Moses never did it he asked God to do it. Do you honestly think that was a coincidence? 4. The bible isn't dumbed down it is used to get a core message across at the same time written is such a way that deciphering it is not lost throughout the ages[/quote] 1.[quote]1000 years was a way to say a really really long time. [/quote] No it was not, measurements of time don't change, that is an enormous, vague, unintelligent assumption 2.Natural:[quote]existing in or derived from nature; not made or caused by humankind.[/quote] Homosexuality is the same as any other condition a child is born with, being Gay is not caused by humankind, therefore, by dictionary definition, it is perfectly natural 3.They used supernatural beliefs to explain a naturally occurring weather phenomenon, point is? 4.I'm talking about the New Testament, what Christianity is based on, yes it is dumbed down: .Ever heard of a children's bible? .You said yourself, "God" couldn't explain physics to Moses, do he gave him the easy-to-understand version, at least, that is what the monks say

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  • Editado por Oak_Khan: 5/22/2014 3:04:24 AM
    1. "No it was not, measurements of time don't change, that is an enormous, vague, unintelligent assumption" Remember the bible was written by men, "With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." the definition of 1000 years will remain the same yes, but when you say [i]like[/i] a thousand years it does not mean literally 100 years. even a child can grasp that concept 2. "Homosexuality is the same as any other condition a child is born with, being Gay is not caused by humankind, therefore, by dictionary definition, it is perfectly natural" Clearly you are confused by my sentence structure. I also used the case of down-syndrome as an example so that should have made it clear that i meant in the sense that they are completely normal human beings. There is a slight difference from the norm. 3. "They used supernatural beliefs to explain a naturally occurring weather phenomenon, point is?" The fact that it can happen doesnt prove that it does happen. the likely hood of that event repeating itself is extremely slim and believing that it was a coincidence is being ignorant. 4. The books of the bible are all written down experiences of peoples interaction with God. The New testament is compromised of books of people who got to see jesus and they recounted their experiences with him. It is the least metaphoric section of the Bible. Most of the metaphors used in the Bible are found in the stories. The core elements behind Christianity all stay the same Proof in the existence of a God is very clear, why is it that all the conditions/laws in the Bible line up perfectly with our conscience? you dont have to have ever read the bible to know some things are wrong, you just feel bad when you do it. Do you think the Big bang creating our universe was based on luck? The earth is in the perfect range from the sun so that it doesnt freeze over or burn, so that it can retain heat and so that it sustains life. More than 70 percent of the earth is water, the core element of many species. The chances of that being all luck is the same as a a man shaking a box full of watch parts and when he opens the box a perfect watch is made with all the parts just luckly lining up in the right order. I dont need to tell you how slim that chance is but it still begs the question, who is shaking the box?

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