[quote]A notary at a local bank, where I have gone more than a dozen times to have work documents signed, asked me to explain what we were having notarized. The documents were charitable organizations registrations for American Atheists in several states. So I told her what AA is about. She looked down, then looked at me and [American Atheists President] Dave Silverman and said she couldn’t sign the documents because of “personal reasons” and went to find another notary who was eating his lunch to come do the authentications.
I have been called names, threatened, hated on and all manner of ridiculed because of my atheist activism, but I think sitting in a bank and having another professional refuse to do business with me because I am an atheist was the worst slight I have ever received.
In New Jersey, notaries are not required to abide by any code of conduct or ethics that prevents them from refusing service to people based on “personal reasons.” Even though we had a valid, legal document and valid, legal identification — she was legally able to refuse me service.[/quote][quote]it’s entirely possible the employee was caught in a personal conflict (is it against my faith if I indirectly help promote atheism?) and just handled it the wrong way.[/quote]
Would it be in conflict of their faith if a Christian [or a person of any religion] were to notorize documents that endorsed atheism?
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6 RespuestasI don't really understand how observing the signing of documents is endorsing what's being signed... Anyway, of course they can. One of my closest friends is [i]very[/i] religious, and he has no problem with my atheism or my faggotry.
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8 RespuestasWould you be willing to sign documents that would endorse and help promote the KKK or Neo-[url=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url]? I know I wouldn't. I don't see a problem with this.
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1 RespuestaIt's a little silly to do so. Would she have done the same if it were an Islamic organization?
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10 Respuestas[quote]In New Jersey, notaries are not required to abide by any code of conduct or ethics that prevents them from refusing service to people based on “personal reasons.”[/quote] Good. People shouldn't have to make decisions they don't want to. As for your question, yes, Christians can endorse atheists. If they don't want to, they don't have to, however.
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In a personal capacity, sure, they could refuse to notarize. As a bank official, no, they can't assert their religion over their responsibilities to the bank.
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If it's a group or person that verbally attacks Christianity and other religions then you won't be getting any endorsements from me. If you respect, understand, and tolerate a person's religious belief then I will endorse you
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3 RespuestasDespite being an Atheist/Agnostic I'd refuse them service just for shits and giggles. You can be an atheist if you want, but in the same manner as the WBC kindly shut the -blam!- up about it and let everyone else get on with their lives. The AA are just obnoxiously annoying, I'm all for fair treatment of Atheists and Theists but dear shrek in swampen they are a bunch of cry babies ._.
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No. Here's a key tenet to Christianity: don't be a jerk.
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1 RespuestaThat is discrimination pure and simple. It makes no difference if he were an atheist, black or a Jew. She declined service because of who he was. I'd sue the shit out of that bank. Anyways, to your question, as an atheist, I would be surprised if a Christian did endorse anyone who is an atheist for anything.
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*generic fedora comment*
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6 RespuestasEditado por Booty: 3/28/2014 8:28:35 AMNot it they follow their bible, in which case they also wouldn't use light bulbs. PSALM 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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4 Respuestas*sigh* Must we have another religion thread?
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1 RespuestaCan you stop posting?
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"10/10, very euphoric" -The Pope
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Editado por CND AAA Beef: 3/28/2014 6:58:25 AMAfter taking a brief tour of the American Atheists' website, I probably wouldn't want to deal with them either. Basically all they're doing is suing the government over an $850 tax exempt status registration fee.
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1 RespuestaYes it is a conflict. And if they feel like refusing you their service, they can do whatever the hell they feel like doing. And a "charity" for American Atheists? What in the hell is the charity doing, donating fedoras? lel I kid. But honestly, they can do what they want. They can refuse you just as you can refuse their business.
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IT WOULD BE. HELPING PEOPLE ENCOURAGE CLAIMING THAT GOD ISN'T REAL WHILE YOU BELIEVE THAT HE IS?
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Editado por LowIQPlayz3445: 3/28/2014 6:42:12 AMI don't have anything against atheists, and if I work at the bank, it's my job to take it and make sure you get your money. So, yeah. I guess I would.
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1 RespuestaGod damn, Max. What happened to you? You're posting BADMAGIK tier threads. What happened to your quality posts?
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I think it would be. You would essentially be promoting and making yourself a tool of a false prophet making you a false prophet.
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9 Respuestas[quote]I have been called names, threatened, hated on and all manner of ridiculed because of my atheist activism[/quote] Good. Stupidity shouldn't be tolerated.
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I don't see how it would be against Christianity, but people are idiots, so who knows...
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Did he get his documents notarized? Then he wasn't refused service. - Der
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Isn't a notary just validating legal documents, though? Their religion would have to specify that they are pretty much forbidden from interacting with non-believers at all to make this a breach of beliefs. All you are doing is acknowledging that they have paperwork, not participating at all in their beliefs.
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1 RespuestaI wouldn't feel like it was against my faith as a Christian (the article doesn't say this notary was a Christian, but you seem to be assuming so), but if I [i]did[/i] feel that way about some aspect of my job that strongly, I'd find a new job.