I liked Halo 4, multiplayer wise anyways. But the campaign sucked major donkey dick.
Main story: Somehow a forerunner has survived millennia imprisoned inside a forerunner shield world. So the only surviving forerunner is evil. They saved the evil guy... After the rings were fired killing all life, after countless ages he tricks you into releasing him.
...from inside his own cell, he tricks you into releasing him, by manipulating his prison... Did I mention he knows magic? Or the force, because he does force grip you. Oh! I know! How about the part where you NEVER fight him? Or the part where he personally does nothing more than force grip you? At the end you do 3 quick time moves to plant a grenade on his chest and Cortana saves you from him AND kills him. And then she saves you from a nuclear explosion from the warhead you detonated... WITH YOUR HAND. No, you didn't even lose a pinky.
BTW, no, I can't explain how Cortana had the ability to save the chief. She just DOES.
Well they did it. Chief is now the second coming of Christ himself. You find what remains of a Forerunner's memory stored in a computer and she admits to having sown the seeds to Humanities rebirth. Ok, that I can deal with. Wait... 343, what are you doing? Stop. Stooooooooooop! She continues "Yes, I laid the ground work for your being. You, your armor and your AI companion. I arranged it so you would be here to defeat this threat."
W.T.L.F.
So the forerunners had the power to set things in motion to create ONE individual over numerous millennia, insuring he gets augmented into an experimental warrior, gets experimental armor, and an experimental AI. Not only that, but battle off the covenant and defeat the flood AGAIN since they couldn't do it right the first time, only to end up at this world to defeat this Forerunner that doesn't know what time is. Yet they couldn't put a round between this evil forerunner's eyes?
Oh and Lasky? You know how forward unto Dawn ended with him as a grizzled captain who says "We're going to get chief"? Yeah, no. He's a young hopeful officer on a ship that ends up in the area because they found some coordinates from a forerunner site. Oh, and you know how at the very end of the last episode the Infinity has a bunch of smaller support craft with it when they go to jump to get the chief? You know, like real battle groups to protect big important ships? Turns out the ships weren't going to the same place because the Infinity WAS THE ONLY SHIP THAT SHOWED UP. Oh, and the guy that actually is the Captain? Says "screw you chief, you're crazy. I'm going home." Like the chief didn't just save the human race four years earlier.
Not to mention the Infinity, the BIGGEST ship ever built by mankind to this point, crash lands on a planet and within a day, after no serious repairs, takes off for space again...
How about the fact that besides hunters (only 4 in the campaign) there are 3 kinds of covenant and 3 kinds of forerunner lackeys? Grunts, Jackals, Elites. Knights, Dog things, watchers. ...That got boring.
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I would add how drawn out and over milked the Master Chief's story and character felt. Render distance was the absolute worst in this game and the graphics were just pain disgusting on any flying ships that are supposed to be far way. The multiplayer was more CoD than Halo as well in addition to the lower quantity and quality of gametypes.
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Yeah the whole campaign was just a huge pissoff to me.
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3 Respuestas[quote]Main story: Somehow a forerunner has survived millennia imprisoned inside a forerunner shield world. So the only surviving forerunner is evil. They saved the evil guy... After the rings were fired killing all life, after countless ages he tricks you into releasing him.[/quote] A.The Ur-Didact is not the only surviving Forerunner B."They" Didn't save him. His wife put him in the Cryptum, hoping for him to use the Domain to meditate on his wrongdoings. What she didn't realise was that the Halo array would destroy the Domian (Oh and BTW, this was after he got mind -blam!- by the Flood) [quote]...from inside his own cell, he tricks you into releasing him, by manipulating his prison... Did I mention he knows magic? Or the force, because he does force grip you. Oh! I know! How about the part where you NEVER fight him? Or the part where he personally does nothing more than force grip you? At the end you do 3 quick time moves to plant a grenade on his chest and Cortana saves you from him AND kills him. And then she saves you from a nuclear explosion from the warhead you detonated... WITH YOUR HAND. No, you didn't even lose a pinky.[/quote] He doesn't use the force at all, what he does use is tech similar to what Tartatus uses on 343 in Halo 2. Secondly, fighting the Didact would be like a Legionnaire going up against a Tank. [quote]BTW, no, I can't explain how Cortana had the ability to save the chief. She just DOES.[/quote] She uses the hardlight bridge to restrain the Didact. [quote]Well they did it. Chief is now the second coming of Christ himself. You find what remains of a Forerunner's memory stored in a computer and she admits to having sown the seeds to Humanities rebirth. Ok, that I can deal with. Wait... 343, what are you doing? Stop. Stooooooooooop! She continues "Yes, I laid the ground work for your being. You, your armor and your AI companion. I arranged it so you would be here to defeat this threat."[/quote] "Reclaimer, when I indexed mankind for repopulation, I hid seeds from the Didact. Seeds which would lead to an eventuality. Your physical evolution. Your combat skin. Even your ancilla, Cortana. You are the culmination of a thousand lifetimes of planning." She's not refering to Chief but the Spartan Program as a whole [quote]Oh and Lasky? You know how forward unto Dawn ended with him as a grizzled captain who says "We're going to get chief"? Yeah, no. He's a young hopeful officer on a ship that ends up in the area because they found some coordinates from a forerunner site. Oh, and you know how at the very end of the last episode the Infinity has a bunch of smaller support craft with it when they go to jump to get the chief? You know, like real battle groups to protect big important ships? Turns out the ships weren't going to the same place because the Infinity WAS THE ONLY SHIP THAT SHOWED UP. Oh, and the guy that actually is the Captain? Says "screw you chief, you're crazy. I'm going home." Like the chief didn't just save the human race four years earlier.[/quote] FuD didn't end with Lasky as a "grizled captain" it ended with him as the XO of the infinity, just like he was during campaign. [quote]Not to mention the Infinity, the BIGGEST ship ever built by mankind to this point, crash lands on a planet and within a day, after no serious repairs, takes off for space again...[/quote] Maybe because it didn't take that much damage in the first place? [quote]How about the fact that besides hunters (only 4 in the campaign) there are 3 kinds of covenant and 3 kinds of forerunner lackeys? Grunts, Jackals, Elites. Knights, Dog things, watchers. ...That got boring.[/quote] Wasn't for me
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10 Respuestas[quote]Somehow a forerunner has survived millennia imprisoned inside a forerunner shield world.[/quote]Yes. Forerunners have had 10 Million years to hone their technology on the imitations of Precursor tech. Their suits keep them alive for an indefinite amount of time. Combat Cryptums presumebly use Slipspace to encase the user inside. That would also be a sufficient explanation as to why he survived. [quote]So the only surviving forerunner is evil. They saved the evil guy... After the rings were fired killing all life, after countless ages he tricks you into releasing him. ...from inside his own cell, he tricks you into releasing him, by manipulating his prison...[/quote]That was not a prison. It was a Combat Cryptum. [i]His[/i] Combat Cryptum. [quote]Did I mention he knows magic? Or the force, because he does force grip you.[/quote]The Forerunners have a mastery of manipulating gravity. It's obvious to tell that. I'm suprised you didn't make the conclusion that it was a field that manipulated gravity. Specifically a Constraint Field. Promethean Warrior-Servants are outfitted with them. [quote]Oh! I know! How about the part where you NEVER fight him?[/quote]Forerunner technology is eons ahead of the UNSC's. Chief would stand no chance. Now, even if they did figure out how to disable his weaponry on his suit and his Constraint Field, they'd still have to deal with the fact that the Didact has over 10,000 years of combat experience and military training compaired to Chief's 40. Even less than that if you account the time he's spent in Cryo. [quote]At the end you do 3 quick time moves to plant a grenade on his chest and Cortana saves you from him AND kills him. [/quote]It was either that or a cutscene. The personal feel of being in the Chief's helmet as he defeats the Didact was well done. Do you honestly think he's dead? He fell into a Slipspace Portal. His armor additionaly cancelled out the Ionization Sphere produced by the Pulse Grenade. [quote]And then she saves you from a nuclear explosion from the warhead you detonated... WITH YOUR HAND. No, you didn't even lose a pinky. BTW, no, I can't explain how Cortana had the ability to save the chief. She just DOES.[/quote]I honestly could only believe you can't explain it yourself if you haven't played the original Halo Trilogy. Large Forerunner installations are all equipped with Slipspace networks in the form of portals or a translocation grid. Cortana utilized the Mantle's Approach's slipspace grid to move Chief away from the ship. Another way to interpret the scene is the fact that Cortana tells Chief that the window for getting out of their will be small once the Warhead is primed. So, you could view that scene as it being that the HAVOK Mine doesn't detonate until the debris starts "falling" behind Chief. [quote]"Yes, I laid the ground work for your being. You, your armor and your AI companion. I arranged it so you would be here to defeat this threat."[/quote]Did you fail to listen to anything the Librarian said? She never elaborated on the true reason Chief and Cortana's seeds were planned. She herself also stated the Didact was supposed to meditate and help Humanity when he was released. That plan obviously did not work. [quote]So the forerunners had the power to set things in motion to create ONE individual over numerous millennia, insuring he gets augmented into an experimental warrior, gets experimental armor, and an experimental AI. Not only that, but battle off the covenant and defeat the flood AGAIN since they couldn't do it right the first time, only to end up at this world to defeat this Forerunner that doesn't know what time is. Yet they couldn't put a round between this evil forerunner's eyes?[/quote]You completely misinterpretted what the Librarian said. She simply set things in motion to lead to an eventuality. That eventuality being Chief recieving his armor adn Cortana's creation. The Librarian never planned for the Flood to be released, for the Covenant's attempted xenocide, or for the Didact's revenge. Additionally, Mjolnir is not experimental. Nor is Cortana. [quote]Oh and Lasky? You know how forward unto Dawn ended with him as a grizzled captain who says "We're going to get chief"? Yeah, no. He's a young hopeful officer on a ship that ends up in the area because they found some coordinates from a forerunner site. Oh, and you know how at the very end of the last episode the Infinity has a bunch of smaller support craft with it when they go to jump to get the chief? You know, like real battle groups to protect big important ships? Turns out the ships weren't going to the same place because the Infinity WAS THE ONLY SHIP THAT SHOWED UP.[/quote]Maybe you should realise two things. 1. Not everything in Forward Unto Dawn lines up with canon. 2. Infinity is officially an exploratory vessel. It's what they did. Assisted the UNSC and ONI on exploratory missions (among other things) [quote]Oh, and the guy that actually is the Captain? Says "screw you chief, you're crazy. I'm going home." Like the chief didn't just save the human race four years earlier.[/quote]You need to realise that Del Rio was completely unprepared for what was going to take place on Requiem. He is extremely concerned about the ship as it's the only reason Humanity is in a dominant positsion. He did not want to jepordize the UNSC's dominance. He is a man that goes by the book. So he wished to leave. He did not want Chief to undermine his authority and rally Infinity's personell to his aid. He exaggerated Chief's craziness. You need to remember that what Chief is saying completely destroys what we had originally thought for the last 5,000 years. [quote]Not to mention the Infinity, the BIGGEST ship ever built by mankind to this point, crash lands on a planet and within a day, after no serious repairs, takes off for space again...[/quote]"Infinity looks intact." "Something tells me that's only because the Didact wanted it that way." Also, you saw what the crash did to Infinity. Its belly was shredded. [quote]How about the fact that besides hunters (only 4 in the campaign) there are 3 kinds of covenant and 3 kinds of forerunner lackeys? Grunts, Jackals, Elites. Knights, Dog things, watchers. ...That got boring.[/quote]Reminds me of CE. Simple and sweet with enough variety to make it interesting.
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1 RespuestaThe campaign is the best in the main series.
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The last time I played the Halo 4 campaign was back in November 2012, and I haven't really played it since due to it being horrible. However I'm just now going to play through it again on Heroic, just for the hell of it. I'll post back whenever I finish.
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52 RespuestasEditado por Master Chief: 8/24/2013 12:16:19 PMHalo 4 had the worst campaign of them all in my opinion. The only mission I liked was "Reclaimer".
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[i]I liked Halo 4, multiplayer wise anyways. But the campaign sucked major donkey dick. [/i] Just.... Facepalm. Everything wrong with gamers is in this sentence.
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[quote]How about the fact that besides hunters (only 4 in the campaign) there are 3 kinds of covenant and 3 kinds of forerunner lackeys? Grunts, Jackals, Elites. Knights, Dog things, watchers. ...That got boring.[/quote]This is your only valid complaint. However, there were originally going to be 3 additional Promethean variants. And I'm sure 343i have realized their mistake of excluding enemies, given their reappearance in Spartan Assault (which is more of fan service than innovating IMO).
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I liked it
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Editado por The Random: 8/24/2013 2:09:37 PMThe campaign does suck, but not because of your reasoning. Not all but most of what you've said can be explained.
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I though the problem was in how scripted the levels were. In halo 3 you would see a scarab ad they'd tell you to kill it. You had to choose how. In halo 4 you had to take out a litch when it zapped the mammoth. But you didn't have to find a way it. You had to sit there and shoot ghosts until the game said you could get on. Then it told you where to go and what to shoot. Did they not trust that we would understand how to do it ourselves?
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4 RespuestasEditado por ROBERTO jh: 8/24/2013 1:25:03 AM1) They explain that he was supposed to help humanity, but his insanity and hatred got the better of him. 2) His cell isn't a prison, it's a Cryptum he uses to control his planet. 3) He's not dead. 4) He uses gravity manipulation technology. 5) The Chief "kills" him, by planting a grenade on him. 6) Cortana specifically says "I got you off the ship." By teleportation and hard light shields. 7) That you can't explain it is your own fault for not paying attention, not the game's. 8) Seeing as how everything she says applies to all Spartans, no, not one individual, but the concept of humanity evolving itself to become greater than is what she implanted in our genes, nothing specific. These commands simply resulted in what she points out. 9) Forward Unto Dawn ends with the announcement that Captain gave a slip order and Lasky getting into cryo, not him as the Captain. Did you even watch the show? 10) Those ships are presumably the Frigates that are docked inside the Infinity launch bays, but either way this is a non issue. 11) What Chief did is irrelevant to the eyes of a by the books career captain, all that matters is what he [I]does[/I], and what he was doing was risking the ship. 12) I have no idea how the ship taking off again has anything to do with anything, especially given that "Infinity looks intact....because the Didact wanted it that way." 13) Fair enough, but I'll tell you, for your sake I hope you're trolling because other than the opinion at the end, all I saw was mindless hate drivel that I'm pretty sure I'm about to get aneurism from. If you had paid attention none of these would be an issue.
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2 RespuestasI liked it better than Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo Wars and Halo Reach.
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None of my friends even understood what was happening in the campaign and they( and I) stopped trying to by the 3/4 mission.
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22 Respuestas[quote]I liked Halo 4, multiplayer wise anyways. But the campaign sucked major donkey dick. [/quote] Disagreed. [quote]Main story: Somehow a forerunner has survived millennia imprisoned inside a forerunner shield world.[/quote] Actually this is just one of the main plot threads of Halo 4- there are two main narrative threads you could consider as the "main story-" the character driven Chief/Cortana conflict and the Forerunner plot line as well. [quote]So the only surviving forerunner is evil.[/quote] Untrue. Bornstellar and a few other Forerunners went into exile after this, and Didact's monologue at the end implies that he's come into contact with them. Before you tell me the line was something delivered in the past, let me direct you to this particular line: "We squander eons in the darkness, while they seize our triumphs for their own." Explain how this could be considered as something delivered in the past. [quote]They saved the evil guy...[/quote] He was imprisoned. The Librarian imprisoned him in Requiem so that he could reflect upon his previous malevolence and come out with a positive outlook on humanity. "BUT WER DUZ IT SEI DAT?" "The Librarian left little to chance, didn't she? Turning my own guardians... my own world... against me." "The Forerunners... have returned. This [b]tomb[/b]… is now yours." [quote]After the rings were fired killing all life, after countless ages he tricks you into releasing him. ...from inside his own cell, he tricks you into releasing him, by manipulating his prison...[/quote] He manipulated a distress beacon which the Librarian was desperately trying to counter throughout the entirety of the second mission. It's not nearly as ridiculous as you make it out to be. [quote]Did I mention he knows magic?[/quote] No, and that was a good thing because he didn't know magic. Unless you mean Clarke's definition of magic, in which case the entirety of the Forerunners from the beginning could be classified as using such technology. [quote]Or the force, because he does force grip you.[/quote] No, he uses a constraint field. [quote]Oh! I know! How about the part where you NEVER fight him?[/quote] A fight was actually not necessary- the climax of the game wasn't meant to be a fight with the Didact, it was meant to be the diffusing of the bomb. Disappointing from a gameplay perspective, but sound from a narrative point of view. [quote]Or the part where he personally does nothing more than force grip you?[/quote] K. [quote]At the end you do 3 quick time moves to plant a grenade on his chest and Cortana saves you from him AND kills him.[/quote] Cortana saving Chief from him shouldn't be a negative at all- indeed it's excellent from a thematic point of view- it shows that she will always protect him, despite the role reversal throughout the game. The fact that she died as Cortana, and not a rampant mess of herself, is important and will most probably dictate the future of the series as well. Also, Didact isn't dead. No. In fact, if Chronarch's theory is true, we're in for a treat. According to Halsey's journal, AIs reach a sort of apex form when traveling through slipspace. What's the last thing you see with the Didact? Him falling into slipspace with Cortana in his head. Make of it what you will. [quote]And then she saves you from a nuclear explosion from the warhead you detonated... WITH YOUR HAND. No, you didn't even lose a pinky.[/quote] Cool. [quote]BTW, no, I can't explain how Cortana had the ability to save the chief. She just DOES.[/quote] I can't explain how there are flying buildings or even light with mass itself. There just IS. [quote]Well they did it. Chief is now the second coming of Christ himself.[/quote] While this is hyperbole, you do in fact see something akin to this in the Epilogue cutscene, where Chief has his arms T-ed in a Jesus fashion. It's thematically brilliant, connecting with Halsey's remark in the opening cutscene that her Spartans were "our destiny as a species." [quote]You find what remains of a Forerunner's memory stored in a computer and she admits to having sown the seeds to Humanities rebirth. Ok, that I can deal with. Wait... 343, what are you doing? Stop. Stooooooooooop![/quote] I don't even know what this is supposed to mean, but okay. You know you can turn the game off if it's causing you too much pain right? [quote]She continues "Yes, I laid the ground work for your being. You, your armor and your AI companion. I arranged it so you would be here to defeat this threat." W.T.L.F.[/quote] No, she says she merely set humanity on their path to the Mantle (or beyond, given the cryptic nature and her lack of a response to Chief's "planning for what?" question) again. Indeed, she even mentions that her "plan is now at risk" because of the events transpiring on Requiem. [quote]So the forerunners had the power to set things in motion to create ONE individual over numerous millennia, insuring he gets augmented into an experimental warrior, gets experimental armor, and an experimental AI. Not only that, but battle off the covenant and defeat the flood AGAIN since they couldn't do it right the first time, only to end up at this world to defeat this Forerunner that doesn't know what time is.[/quote] See previous explanation, but even then: A) The Forerunners would have curbstomped the Covenant. And they did, with regards to the San Shyuum. B) The Flood were... already defeated? What do you mean? [quote]Yet they couldn't put a round between this evil forerunner's eyes?[/quote] I don't even... [quote]Oh and Lasky? You know how forward unto Dawn ended with him as a grizzled captain[/quote] Holy sh1t. You managed to determine that he was grizzled through an accumulated screen time of about 1 and a half minutes? How? [quote]who says "We're going to get chief"?[/quote] One line of dialogue, and one that's wholly inconclusive of anything regarding his personality at that? [quote]Yeah, no. He's a young hopeful officer on a ship that ends up in the area because they found some coordinates from a forerunner site.[/quote] Cool. What's awesome is how there's nothing wrong with that. [quote]Oh, and you know how at the very end of the last episode the Infinity has a bunch of smaller support craft with it when they go to jump to get the chief? You know, like real battle groups to protect big important ships? Turns out the ships weren't going to the same place because the Infinity WAS THE ONLY SHIP THAT SHOWED UP.[/quote] "Let's go check out some coordinate data." "Okay. EVERYONE MAN YOUR STATIONS, REPORT FOR BATTLE!" Not to mention the Infinity is [i]built specifically[/i] for this kind of stuff? [quote]Oh, and the guy that actually is the Captain? Says "screw you chief, you're crazy. I'm going home." Like the chief didn't just save the human race four years earlier.[/quote] You mean the guy who crash landed on a planet and found a long dead Spartan along with a deteriorating AI telling them to stay there and fight with no battle group at the ready? Yeah. That's the one. [quote]Not to mention the Infinity, the BIGGEST ship ever built by mankind to this point, crash lands on a planet and within a day, after no serious repairs, takes off for space again...[/quote] The BIGGEST and MOST WELL MADE with THE BEST CREW and A TEAM OF OVER 1700 SPARTANS? Yeah. What a massive, gaping flaw that was. [quote]How about the fact that besides hunters (only 4 in the campaign) there are 3 kinds of covenant and 3 kinds of forerunner lackeys? Grunts, Jackals, Elites. Knights, Dog things, watchers. ...That got boring.[/quote] Let's just forget about ODST then? Brutes Engineers Grunts Drones Jackals Hunters Six different enemy types. Wow. What a failure of a game.
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Seriously? I don't like Halo 4's campaign (aside from the story) but those are horrible reasons.
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Looking back Halo 4's campaign wasn't as bad as I remembered. I am very tired though and seem more prone to exaggerate.