[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/christopher-dorner-manhunt-los-angeles_n_2638023.html]Article[/url]
[quote]A fired police officer who threatened to bring "warfare" to the Los Angeles Police Department went on a shooting rampage that left a policeman and two others dead and set off an extraordinary manhunt Thursday that put Southern California on edge, led hair-trigger officers to mistakenly shoot at innocent citizens and forced police to guard their own.
The search for Christopher Dorner had three states and Mexico on alert before shifting Thursday afternoon to the snowy mountains around Big Bear Lake, about 80 miles east of Los Angeles, where police found his burned-out pickup truck and tracks leading away from the vehicle.[/quote]
Now, this story has a bit of a curveball:
[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/lapd-shooting-at-innocent-people_n_2638701.html?icid=maing-grid7|hp-laptop|dl1|sec3_lnk1%26pLid%3D267586]Police officers have shot at innocent people two separate times[/url] while looking for the suspect.
While I hope the cop killer is caught before he hurts anyone else, I don't think shooting everyone until you get the right guy is the solution. One killer loose doesn't change the circumstances in which deadly force can be used.
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1 RespuestaUPDATE: [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/12/chris-dorner-manhunt_n_2672238.html?icid=maing-grid7|hp-laptop|dl1|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D269627]Dorner has been found[/url] and has barricaded himself inside a cabin. He shot 2 officers who were going after him.
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13 RespuestasI don't know what should scare me more, the fact that there is an armed mad man on the loose, that cops are trigger happy, or that a number of people apparently run on hard boiled cop movie logic. At least a few people seem to be justifying it with the words "corrupt" or "bad" cop. The only people that he has killed so far are assorted patrol officers and relatives. It would be like people cheering someone on for going into a wal-mart and shooting a cashier and a couple customers because they don't like the business practices. Michael Dorner [url=http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-quan-lawrence-20130211,0,2017805.story] killed two people [/url] because they were family members of a detective. It wasn't a mistake. It wasn't because they had actually done anything. Can someone please explain to me how anyone in their right mind can call Michael Dorner justified? Yet it seems as though people are using a dislike of the LAPD as a reason to "root" for Dorner. This isn't a boxing match. You don't have to approve of someone because they oppose something you dislike.
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3 RespuestasHere's my prediction: There's no way this guy will make it out alive; neither escaping or spending life in prison. If LAPD is as corrupt and involved in cover-ups like he says, there's no way they'll let him live in order to testify against them or bring any events to light. If they find him, they [b]will [/b]shoot and kill him.
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What if the entire story is false? What if he didnt kill those innocent civilians? What if it was the LAPD who did it and planted evidence so they could make him look insane? What if he wasnt fired because he filed a false report the LAPD just wanted him gone so they sold that bullshit to the media? What if hes not killing the cops families but taking out the corrupt only? I mean a man who would do something like that wont be portrayed as a good man to the media.
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1 RespuestaJust thought of something.... Law abiding citizen 2: Getting reckless. Boom. Make it happen Hollywood.
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[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/11/chris-dorner-charges-los-angeles_n_2664478.html?1360620859]Charges have been filed[/url] against Dorner. He is charged with murder and 3 counts of attempted murder so far.
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1 RespuestaEditado por perinski93: 2/12/2013 12:01:28 AMpppppppsssssssssssttttttttttttttt they just caught him thats what i'll say when they catch him
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2 RespuestasAlright am i the only one who thinks this is the IRL Garrus Vakarian Both were former cops Both got tired of some bullshit with his job Both planned a idea to go and assassinate corrupt leaders of X group Both are used snipers to do X job No one can find them. Face it, this man is Blacky Vakarian
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Editado por Madman Mordo: 2/11/2013 12:05:53 PMI know this is copypasta but it's still badass: [i]Because he was fired from the LAPD for "creating a false report", it completely boned his military security clearance and destroyed any chance he has of working anything other than a security guard. Having everything stripped from him, and seeing rampant corruption going unchecked, as well as racism etc, he has become The Punisher, the Dark Knight, he who watches the watchmen. He has vowed to cut the corruption out of the LAPD by force, using his tactical training and access to secure military intelligence systems. He is the terror that flaps in the night. He will kill every police officer he can to root this evil from the land. Only by waging assymetrical warfare against the LAPD was he able to bring attention to a corrupted system, and his injustice he has had to endure because he chose to do the right thing. He is the creak in the hallway. He is the wind rustling at the back of your neck. Because his life was torn from him and destroyed to protect criminal cops, forcing him into these actions, he will never get to have a family. For forcing this fate upon him, none of the cops families shall be safe. All they hold dear is at risk... for once, the hunters become the hunted. The tyrants are afraid, for justice has come for them. He is a good man pushed too far... and he is prepared to give his life, so that you may live yours in freedom and liberty. He is an American Hero.[/i]
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A million dollars? Wow. I wish I lived there, and I had weapons to take him down, then I'd be rich!
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1 RespuestaI think it is evident he knows things the cops don't want the public to find out and they are willing to hurt or kill innocent civilians to take down this guy.
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1 RespuestaI like how people have passively accepted and are no longer bothered by the murders carried out by corrupt law enforcement but are self righteous enough to condemn a man for the same thing. He's intelligent and was a very good person before he was pushed to the very edge of sanity. His manifesto details that he spent the last 5 years of his ruined life trying to exalt his name legally via the judicial system and the legal system continued to fail him. There is no media outlet who is acknowledging the evidence he's presented - every single news story about this whole incident has referred to him as being fired for falsely accusing another police officer of using excessive force as well as dismissing his manifesto as the "ramblings of a madman" His manifesto is a whole lot more concise and clear than a lot of writings I've read throughout my entire life. Society needs to stop putting all of their focus on the end results of ordeals like this and start acknowledging the circumstances and events that lead to them. I hope he gets to every single person he named in his manifesto, because everyone needs a reminder that they need to be responsible for their choices in life. This man has already taken responsibility for what he has done and will do, he knows he won't be alive to see the outcome of his attempt to shake the system.
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I'm of two minds on this. Corruption is scary because of how ingrained in the system it is, and subsequently, how hard it is to root out. The LAPD definitely hasn't been all kosher since... well, ever. But is murder the answer? Especially when this guy has targeted two marginally related individuals? For someone so supposedly level-headed and thought-out, I consider that pretty sloppy and spiteful to kill family members of those supposedly involved in the corruption (which I can't even personally verify. What if this guy's just angry?).
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Editado por GHOST270: 2/11/2013 6:06:06 AMThis thread reminded me of this line.
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1 Respuestaall the power to Chris Dorner, taking matters into his own hands. shoot em all dead bud! i'd say that's the most direct way to deal with corruption.
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7 RespuestasPolice are offering a [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/10/christopher-dorner-manhunt_n_2658580.html?utm_hp_ref=crime&icid=maing-grid7|hp-laptop|dl3|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D268601]$1 million reward[/url] for information leading to Dorner's arrest.
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As callous and awful as it sounds, it's kind of cool to have a Rambo-esque guy on the loose, going after cops guerrilla style. All I know is I'm enjoying my popcorn over here on the East Coast.
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Like Ken said, the very fact that they're willing to ram into and shoot at citizens before actually checking it was him means this guy is right, the LAPD are corrupt and have something to hide.
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This guy is apparently extremely good at this. He has: Driving training from the police Marksmanship training from both the police and the Navy Aviation and boating training from the Navy Survival training from the Navy and from doing it as a hobby [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/10/christopher-dorner-firing-lapd-reviewed-ex-cop_n_2656811.html?icid=maing-grid7|hp-laptop|dl1|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D268426]Dorner seems to be trying to send cops [/url] all over the state looking for him by leaving clues hidden all around.
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Teh puma is borderline supporting this man right now. Honestly, he knows what the dude is doing, he knows it's NOT ok, and is terrible. However what the LAPD is doing is -blam!-ing ridiculous. They aren't even going to bother "arresting" the guy if they find him, they'll just end up firing 40 shots into his chest. They've already rammed, shot, and damn near killed multiple civilians, some of which look NOTHING like the guy. Basically, teh puma doesn't support either party right now, but the LAPD is full of shit at this point. Either their eye sights have gone damn near blind in the past few days, or they're just going trigger happy.
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Editado por Banned Man 3000: 2/10/2013 10:28:42 AMThe outcome of this is inevitable. The LAPD will not release any statements, they will find this man and kill him. They will say he's dead and we'll go on with our lives as usual
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2 RespuestasEditado por Verachi: 2/9/2013 10:58:16 PMHe isn't insane......he's just butthurt very mucho and if they catch him alive, he'll be butthurt for the rest of his life. I wish they cracked down on crooked cops. I hate crooked cop, Brasil is filled with them. Maybe this guy should pay Brasil a visit.
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This is crazy.
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10 RespuestasHere's a picture of the Tacoma that LAPD opened fire on....
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10 RespuestasSo the guy is waging war against corruption? I gave him props before, but now I respect him.
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2 RespuestasApparently one of his victims was not even related to the case. While I do have some form of sympathy, he is a criminal and he deserves jail time. The LAPD have apparently screwed up big time here.