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Editado por iidaptive: 3/9/2025 3:18:21 AMHuh… you even crutch knucklehead radar and can’t defend against a shotgun who has to be in your face. Your radar literally doesn’t go away lol keep looking at it. Dodge if someone catches you off guard. If you can’t this is obviously a game sense issue. People who are good at shotgunning have learned when to look at radar. It’s very frequently there’s a hint
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No one crutches knuckle dude lol
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Tf you on about he literally said that
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Its not a crutch is what im on about
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Ummm how is it not…? Anything can be .. and besides tell him that he said it lol not me
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only if you are dumb a shotgun is 4-7 meters at most
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How very nice of you. But yeah, I struggle against them.
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Pellets nah but slugs are maybe close
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Only if you suck
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That very well may be true. I have never figured out how to counter a shotgun.
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Just need some deliberate practice backing up when you think your opponent is going to go in for the shotty kill. Eventually it should be something you automatically read. If you are consistently backing up but still dying, it is probably your aim
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Must be my aim then. I just don’t see what else I can do when someone is charging me. Only other option is to completely disengage. And sometimes you can’t get out of the situation. Just always frustrated me.
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What subclass do you play I play a lot of solar hunter so if someone bum rushes me and or makes a stupid play I can use my dodge to back up or 2 tap them with my rose and throw a lightweight knife as I jump away. I also play voidlock and the melee is great against shotgunners but also very good with a shotgun
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I usually only go into crucible with my hunter. Simply because knucklehead is my crutch. I’ll play as stasis, or void for the most part. I have never excelled at being an aggressive player in PvP or PvE and knowing that I try to adjust my style. But shotguns have been an issue for me. You mentioned dodging, melee, and shooting all at once. I just can’t. Sliding and shooting??? I try and practice, but I just can’t. Maybe because I use a controller, I don’t know. I just don’t understand how other people can be Simone Biles sliding into second and not miss a shot.
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I also play on controller on 14 .6. You just need a decently high sens. Between 12 and 18 is good. You really just need the muscle memory and after that it’s pretty easy. I use a controller with back buttons but you can get something similar with good binds on a stock one. You can even just backpedal on the floor because randomly sliding around like that is pretty stupid to do since you could over extend. I have been mainly playing pms scrimms off late so I think my mechanics are quite good now. Takes some time to get your mechanics down but you can speed it up for sure
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My advice would be to try to always have an escape route in mind before you peek a section of the map. Stick to walls. Try to only engage near your weapon's maximum effective range. Good players use shotguns for clean up. The type of thing where they break your shield, then rush in with the shotty for a quick clean up from pretty far away. That type of death is very different from someone straightlining you with a shotgun out from midrange. The second death is preventable with backpeddling and good aim. The first death is trickier. The best thing to do to prevent dying to shotty clean up is to disengage if you are down health in a duel. Think of it like being dealt a shitty hand of cards. If you miss your first shot(s) and your opponent doesn't, just disengage. You should already know where to go to disengage before taking a duel. Sometimes, you just get beat. They were simply the better player.
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You mentioned my health being down. Most of the times I die from a shotgun, I feel like it was from full health with one shot. I’ll admit that maybe a melee or quick weapon change was involved and I just can’t tell on my end. But it always seems like shotguns are 1 hit wonders. They run right past me. Boom dead. Jump over me. Boom dead. Bounce into me. Boom dead. I had a guy yesterday with his back to me. As I came around the corner, he turned and slid (from not sprinting) and boom dead. That’s the one I hate the most. Sliding.
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The only shotgun counter is a fusion, but use a fusion & you see posts pop up like this. Stay away from corners, play midrange failing that. You get lots of bad shotgun players who don't know how to counter midrange so just run at you shotgun out & are easy kills, remember range is in your favour, keep it that way.
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Fusions counter primaries. Countering shotguns is about positioning. The rest of your advice is good 👍
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pellet shotguns have a max range of 1/3 of that. slugs have a max range of 1/2 of that and require a headshot. zealots anybody in 19.2-20ms is dead in half a second with little skill of effort involved. so no lol they're not.
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Editado por Tis-but-a-scratch: 3/8/2025 6:29:16 PMShotguns are definitely worse. Very low risk, high reward. You don’t even have to aim the damn things. Just charge forward and pull the trigger. Stats prove it.
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stats also prove that i can hand cannons are some of the fastest ttk's and yet not many people use them just dont get close or use long range
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Maybe in the low level lobbies but doing stupid stuff like that leaves you out of position which leads to a team wipe.
