Its not anti-consumer in any way just because you dont like the system Always find it hilarious when people say that kind of stuff when they dont know what anti-consumer really is

Lets not be too hasty. The idea is excellent, but the execution is absolutely HORRID. The reason why the execution is failing so consistently is because of the totally alien disconnect between the developers, who have never played Destiny 2, and the game and the players. They have spit-balled crude ideas into Pathfinder objectives without considering any of the possibilities, ramifications and consequences. If they could just start acting intelligently when designing and improving the system, it would be amazing, because you are absolutely lying if you told me that you enjoyed going back to the tower to pick up and micro-manage the bounties from Zavala. I almost never touched them because they were so inconvenient and fidgety. A few examples of the disconnect between Bungie and the game/players as relates to the Pathfinder, and I will be going a bit more in-depth as well on other underlying issues that the Pathfinder can lead players into. 1. Constant attempts to force Players into the Crucible. The Crucible is largely abandoned for a reason. It is buggy, laggy, glitchy, imbalanced and is just unpleasant. They are hurting the game by constantly trying to force everyone to focus on one of the worst parts of the game. From shots and supers not landing due to wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimy latency issues, to melee hits not landing when they should have, to opponents shootings and killing you through walls, the Crucible is by far, pound for pound, the worst part of the entire game, and they have to stop sabotaging the games reputation by forcing people into the worst part of the game. Imagine a new player trying out the game and one of their first experiences is a broken mess of a PVP match they were asked to do by the Pathfinder or New Light quest, where they were cheated out of kills because the server is always having an annurism and kept saying none of their hits on an opposing player counted, meanwhile, that same opposing player snipes them through a wall. Not a good look for the game. 2. Encourages teams to sabotage and compete with each other. Several Pathfinder objectives encourage and require the Player to compete with and sabotage their own team. From the ill-conceived and unrealistic Sniper Rifle Precision Kill Objective(Enemies won't be staying still and your team isn't going to let you line up your shots) to the original Bank Motes Gambit objective which resulted in teammates stealing each others Motes, quite a few Pathfinder objectives require a player to slit their teams throat to complete it. 3. Uneven Reward Vs. Time Invested Ratio. Some objectives take an inordinate amount of time and effort to complete compared to all of the other objectives. Thrill of Victory is the prime example of this, with each win required contributing a pathetic fraction of the required percentage of points required to complete it. Meanwhile, you can complete a few other objectives in one round. I have taken to simply abandoning the Pathfinder on any given week if it gives me a bad roll. Bungie really needs to get a grip and really start understanding how their game and its players tick, and begin making more realistic, intelligent decisions on what the players will want to do. So far, the Pale Heart Pathfinder is WAY better and more intuitive than the Destinations one, so if I want raw exp, there is absolutely no question that you should go do the Pale Heart instead of the troublesome and time-wasting Destinations version, whose only advantage over the other is that it offers Bright Dust. Ideally, the sollution to the Pathfinders current problems would involve adding more flexability and wiggle-room, and more importantly I think, for Bungie to actually understand what it is they are asking the Players to do, and to give the players more reasonable objectives. For the former, condensing more weapons into individual objectives would be nice, like Kills with Sniper Rifles and Scout Rifles being condensed into one and the same for all the other weapons, as well as giving objectives that are not to get kills, but to instead fill up a points bar, with damage, assists, kills, precision damage and precision kills all contributing lower/higher points, this will mean that no matter what a Player does, they will still be filling up this bar, rather than being at war with their own team to get the last hit in. For the latter, Bungie simply needs to learn more about the game they are making and the people who play it, and understand what is considered reasonable, acceptable and a worthwhile time investment. Currently, Bungie has demonstrated through the Pathfinder system alone that they have little to no understanding of the game, its mechanics or the players who play it and pay their wages each month. It would also be for the best that they add some kind of work-around mechanic in-case a bugged or obstinate objective appears and blocks the Player from completing the Pathfinder tree. Even Bounties allowed you to abandon an undesirable bounty and pick up a new, randomly generated one to replace it.

[quote]this new system is worse then what we had before, straight up. cause we could also just pick the bounties we wanted by dismantling the ones we know we wouldn't do, this system forces you to play game modes you don't want to touch such as gambit, or pvp. and the fact that we can only get 1 prime engram, compared to the 3 we got before is a huge down grade, and a time waster.... people have sugjested that there should be 3 seprate modes, witch could work untill you relize that you have to do certain challenges in order to get the thing done, witch is still fairly limiting, they should make it so you only have to finish a few of the challenges to get the engram instead of forcing us to do certain ones... and the removal of bountys has gotten rid of ways for people to get free bright dust now.... this is very anti consumer if you ask me, added to the fact that you still sell armor for 20$ that will never be added into the regular shop... just.... nah... this sucks, its worse.[/quote] 1st. Pathfinder awards 3 pinnacles per week per account. With this system you have a chance to get all 3 pinnacles without playing PvP or gambit where as before to get all 3 pinnacles you would have to play all 3 activities. 2nd, in no way does anything force players to play PvP or gambit other than their own deluded minds. 3rd, stay in school kids

Bounties sucked.

as much as i agree i liked the bounty system much better than path finder i will point out you get 3 pinnacles for your first 3 path clears - it says prime engrams but its actual pinnacles