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10/2/2023 8:12:59 PM
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Removing legendary shards breaks the whole economy

Right now, if I don't like the loot I get I can break it down, and get some legendary shards and a bit of glimmer, and about a one in five (1/5) chance of getting an enhancement core to drop. Once legendary shards are gone then all of the engrams I could possibly earn from seasonal content become useless once I can craft the weapons, and I have high stat armor. So, now engrams are useless, and there's no more loot in your looter shooter. The only reason to play will be to unlock the craftable weapons and to watch the story. Oh, and just because it's fun to play. But lot's of games are fun... I do appreciate the end game economy recently installed that can allow me to try for higher stat exotics that I already own, but really I can only have about one attempt per week, and that's only when I'm grinding grandmasters. Just my ¢2

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  • Editado por 8Babies13: 10/7/2023 9:49:28 PM
    Bungie never has and likely never will have a good economy in the franchise. If they make things cheap, or valuable, players burn through whatever they can earn or their allotted limit too quickly. If they make things expensive, or meaningless, players don't spend and instead hoard, or only spend when they are unaware of the mistake that they are making. If you play a lot, and play in a conscious way, you'll have tons of every mat and feel like there's nothing to buy or no reason to keep playing, and it'll be less fun. If you are casual and just play to have fun without thinking about the consequences of spending all your currencies, you'll constantly be broke and it'll be less fun. They have NEVER struck a balance between these two states, or two kinds of players and instead of accepting that there will always be differences between them, Bungie has always tried to reset the advantage of long time players. All this does is set a very temporary road block in front of those players, which they blow by because they play DIFFERENTLY than casuals, not just MORE.

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  • Editado por Justin68687112: 10/6/2023 3:59:08 AM
    Though I already commented, I do have to say, I come to terms with Legendary Shards being removed. At first, it bothered me cause I literally spent about the last 2-3 seasons earning LS for Final Shape. I thought I should increase my LS amount even further, so I can have the luxury of upgrading every time I get a higher leveled item, and not wear an ugly random outfit or be stuck using just one loadout till max level. I had like 20,000 but Lightfall cost me literally over 11,000 shards just on upgrade cores so I wanted enough to live comfortably for Final Shape and the episodes after. But then I started seeing that Bungie doesn't give a -blam!-, they are still proceeding with the idea, and I realized I still am willing to play, just for the sake of playing. I also saw someone who was asking what exotic he should get from the kiosk and that poor guy has a decent amount of time on this game, yet, he still needs 10 more shards to even get the 1 exotic. The system is broken. The less you play, the less loot you have to dispose of, the less Legendary Shards you can accumulate, the less decent or good stuff you can even buy. The more you play, only if you play alot the threshold you need to hit is so many hours on a consistent basis, the more you are breaking down things, because everything dropping has no value for you, you already have the good stuff. Telling someone with no Legendary Shards they need to play more is counterproductive. So people with jobs and families and commitments, just aren't allowed to enjoy Destiny when they get free time? They need to dedicate a huge chunk of their time into this game, way more than they are now, so what.... so they can achieve more Legendary Shards in Destiny, that's a valid reason?

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  • Or does it make the economy useful and worthless at the same time? Hmmmmmmmmm….

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  • I have a [b]serious quesition[/b]. So Raid Banners cost Legendary Shards, but Legendary Shards are being removed. So are they just gonna be unlimited to buy for free? [b]Or[/b] are you going to be forced to grind a heroic public event for enough glimmer for 3 Raid Banners, causing you to spend more time doing public events than raiding itself? Both sound stupid. Making Raid Banners have no value, or too expensive.

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    • Dumbest thing about this is there won't be any compensation for the Shards removed. I've been spending like crazy ever since this announcement was made, and I still have around 40k. I'm never going to spend it all before next Season.

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      • Just quit the game then all these problems go away! Be free

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        • Considering how tied in legendary shards are to literally every aspect of the game…. Yeah, there’s a very real possibility that the entire system will fundamentally be broken. I mean they are literally necessary for literally everything in the game. I’m not seeing this change working out well at all, giving how entwined they are with everything. I guess for those who stick around, we’ll see what happens in the end. But on paper this just seems like a bad call.

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        • Bungies upset that people have a stock pile so they are removing it because they are the cringes devs on the planet.

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        • Only reason they are removing shards is their cringe obsession with dictating their players to play when THEY want them to play and as often as THEY want their players to keep playing constantly. Bungie is a horrible company. The veterans earned those shards over the last 6 years. Imagine if Blizzard just decided to remove Gold as a currency from their players in diablo or world of warcraft. Oh boy, they would not get away with that let me tell you. But the sentiment towards destiny is at an all time low anyways so i guess most players can't be bothered to care anymore anyways just like myself. Still the scummiest thing a dev can do. Devalues their loyal players time to the maximum just to force them into grinding seasonally for temporary engram rewards while HAVING to spend those within a time frame or they will be deleted. Simply scum, thats what this is.

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        • All bungie cares about is manipulating players into more grind More grind is directly related to more cash shop micros Be amazing if they designed the game around fun instead of manipulation

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          • What economy? There’s no economy that’s gonna be left

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          • The people who don't see the glaring problems with Legendary Shards being ripped out of the game either won't be impacted or don't pay enough attention and will only see the issue when it hits them in the face.

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            • Editado por Andy: 10/5/2023 5:01:15 AM
              It doesn't break the economy but it changes it back to being glimmer limited which is what bungo wants so that we are forced to grind for it to inflate play time stats as that is the principle metric investors look at for a game like this. Many maybe even most of us that have played since day 1 have large stacks of shards as there was never much to spend them on and it doesn't help bungo messed up multiple times with bugs that allowed players to make them in huge numbers, there are people that even hit the 999,999 cap. Their only real use is that I never have to ever think about glimmer for anything, I have ~160,000 earned over the years which is 160,000,000 worth of glimmer. If it want to spend 2-3 million levelling a bunch of crafted weapons I don't even need to think about it and can get it back in a minute. Farming that from events though would take 20-30 HOURS of play and that is what bungo wants us to have to do and is the real reason for their removal.

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            • I can't believe more than fifty people upvoted this post lol

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              • I don't care if they take them away.... but at least remove the weekly cap on amount of ascendant alloys we can buy from rahool so I can spend them before they go

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              • It’s a game dude, there is no shared economy.

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                • Engrams will not be any more or less usefull from this change.

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                  • Editado por The Hermit IX: 10/3/2023 6:20:10 PM
                    Changing economy has been part of the game for a long time. Don’t get used to any particular resource. It won’t break the game at all.

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                    • So much of this game is broken because Bungie have felt the need to cater to too many factions of the community. I can't believe this is the game they wanted to make. It seems as if they've made too many compromises along the way and have been painting themselves into a corner. Every time they think they see a way out of that corner, they do something to paint themselves into another corner. There are either too many corners or too few in this game. I can't decide. I any case, I'm on sabbatical until things are better sorted, if ever. It's just too frustrating for me to play, right now.

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                    • Editado por xbroggiex: 10/3/2023 12:21:20 AM
                      Just to put this into perspective... Deleting 4 legendaries without booster grants... 12 legendary shards and 1000 glimmer, you can spend 10 of those shards for 10k glimmer adding up to 11k glimmer in total with 2 shards left over. Deleting 4 legendaries after the change grants... 4000 glimmer. The rate of which you can acquire glimmer from legendaries is more than halved its cut by around 64%. There is so many problems introduced with this change but its too many to list but this one is the most obvious/problematic besides them making deleting items more of a waste of time than it already is.

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                      • By your post, the only reason you play Destiny 2 is to collect legendary shards to buy raid banners. What else are you doing with those legendary shards that you are so upset with them being removed from the game? You already said you don't play Destiny to have fun so maybe there is some ultra-secret legendary shard achievement you are working to unlock?

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                        • Did... did you just say you don't play the game for fun? I mean, I know grinding rewards is not fun, but the rewards let you have fun.

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                        • Well if you like legendary shards so much then why don’t you marry them?

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                          • So you play D2 for shards ?!!😂

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                          • [quote]The only reason to play will be to unlock the craftable weapons[/quote] Funny they go from borderlands wannabe to copy Warframe weapon acquisition

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                            • Doesn’t break the game if you stop playing.

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