Ik yall will probably never actually read this, but I wanna give my feedback regarding my thoughts and feelings about the game. So I fell in love with destiny's pvp back at the tail end of warmind, and the game in general in vanilla D2. While it had its problems back then, it's pvp was ultimately more fun than now. Everyone may have been using hand cannons and shottys, but it was quick. It was fast paced. It was fun. Fast forward to black armory, and I got le monarque and pretty much used it since. For a long time that bow has been the king of laning, countered only mainly by a good sniper. I kept getting better sometimes, worse other times. I definitely was never the greatest but I had personal improvement, and I had that improvement because I was having fun in pvp. I had my frustrations sure, but overall I had fun. Pvp pushed me into the games other content because I saw other weapons I wanted to try with le monarque, or subtle calamity when I was using it. The other content was great sure, but I myself am a pvp player above all else, and got to experience the other great parts of the game because of pvp. But now, I don't find it enjoyable. The meta is stale, the maps are stale, the abilities are ridiculous. And I hate that it is. Because of this fact also, I don't feel compelled to play the rest of the game. Why go for this good weapon in that raid or dungeon when I'm never going to use them? I played that content because I loved playing pvp. I saw a screenshot of your thoughts on handcannons and the current meta, and I'm sorry to say that I feel you're just... wrong. High skilled players aren't using pulses over hand cannons because they're playing their lives Harder due to matching skilled players, they're doing it because it's the most efficient thing available. I hate that pvp has become a stale, laning Meta with cleanup SMGs season after season. The maps don't help either. They're almost all huge maps, which also makes up majority of your map rotation. so it hardly calls for players to change their tactics, to think outside the box. Again, this comes from a le monarque main, the crowned primary of lanes. I can't tell you how many times that I had to change my cleanup weapon paired with LM, or my loadout Entirely when going against hand cannons and shotguns, snipers and sidearms. I even learned how to play aggressively with a bow in my hands instead of just laning with it. Did i get killed a ton? Sure! But it was rewarding when I came out as the one alive. Now? I never have to rethink what I'm doing. I know all I have to do is endlessly lane and hope I get the pick before the other team get the pick. Its boring. It's stale. And most of all, it's heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking to see a game I love so much fall apart at the seams. It's heartbreaking to feel such frustration at the current state of pvp when I go to try a match or two of survival or trials, and hate it so much that it makes me want to put the game down for a month. I can't "get good" when I hate what I'm playing. I can't have fun when I'm constantly lag spiking, disconnecting, and playing like I'm trying to win a million dollars every game. I can't enjoy your other content to the fullest (which, in itself feels like a shell of its former self) when I don't have a place I can go back to to play with the shiny new toys I got from the latest content, and truly have fun doing so. I'm not a pve person at heart. I can't do the strikes, the seasonal content, the dungeons or raids back to back for hours on end And have it hold my attention because to me, it's boring popping the thousandth charging thrall or the millionth dreg peeking out of cover from behind a box over and over. And for your harder content, some if it can be challenging and fun, but its not engaging If im just dumping 2 to 5 magazines into a bullet sponge like most of your harder content has me do. I want to hit hard and be hit hard, and pvp does that for me. When your pvp is good. It's the best damn pvp I could ever play. It can be challenging, engaging and overall an absolute blast of a time, when it's GOOD. however, right now, it's not good. It's not fun. It's not engaging. It's boring, it's frustrating, and it's just overall disappointing. I don't know what it has to take, I dont know how hard your job, especially to make the game what players like myself want, actually is. I know it's not easy at the very least. But I just want to have fun in your game again. I want to look forward to loading up your game after a long day of work, not dread it. I want to see where this franchise goes after the final shape. But right now, with the state everything is in currently, I just don't know if I have it in me to hear a hundred more "we are listening" with almost nothing to show for it. I dont know if I can bring myself to be there for your future plans with the game. It may not mean much to you guys at the end of the day because I'm only 100 dollars a year as an individual. But it means everything to me to have fun in a game I have cherished dearly for so long. Please, Bungie, I just want to have fun again.