Seriously sniper nerf after sniper nerf after sniper nerf. Yet for 7+ years now shotgun apes have ran the crucible. The only place snipers are viable now is Trials and purely for first pick potential. Sniping can't be fun anymore in a casual setting. Flinch is now ridiculous in PvP with a sniper to the point of I'd rather just use a scout rifle now. So primary>special I guess even tho one has limited ammo and one doesn't, I don't care what people say or whine about. A special weapon should always beat a primary weapon at it's intended ranges. Like Shotgun will beat SMG and Sidearm, same with fusion. But god forbid we let a sniper win against a pulse or a scout at ranges. PvE, it's good now. I like it. Sniping is easier in PvE now. Wasn't one of Bungies Destiny philosophies that the gun should feel the same should you take it into PvP or PvE, snipers are the only weapon that is flunking in that philosophy at the moment. At this point I'm convinced they made flinch so terrible to purely combat cheaters with Xim and aimbots, sucks being punished for something other people do if that the case. Thoughts at this point people? Sure I'm gonna get a lot in disagreement.