They have lost the plot really with crucible…. The outliers … Lorentz, arbalast, controller snipers go untouched for ever… (simple fix… just reduce aim assist and hitbox size what ever they call it) if they had done that from the start very few other nerfs would be needed… The map design on many maps is bad for 6:6 and this will always make peek shooting with handcannons insanely strong … again reduce hitboxes to balance so they need aim (controller last word should also have been fixed quickly) As for specials in general starve them of ammo if they can t be balanced … give people 6 shots a game and that’s it… Also abilities need huge nerfs in pvp … it’s just not a good fps experience