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6/16/2022 6:26:53 PM
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There are genuine balance issues in Crucible. I won't list any of them though because Bungie pays professional game developers to make Destiny, and I doubt they don't already know what those imbalances are, and because I really couldn't care any less if it ever changes. It's so much easier to go play another game's PvP than it is to ask a developer who is already pretty antagonistic to their players to change the game they're all so proud to have made.
And really, there is absolutely 0 draw to play Crucible anyway. Maybe Trials, but it's not worth the time or frustration. Otherwise, you want 2 hand cannons and a stasis fusion rifle? You get one to two every match, it won't take you long to run the well dry.
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Hey, to each their own. If it doesn't attract you then it doesn't attract you. It's not necessarily the fault of the company for not drawing your attention. You just probably have different standards and the game doesn't meet your criteria. There's nothing wrong with that. When players become obsessive and want to place the dev team to cater to your whims is where you have an issue.
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But as far as PVP is concerned the Devs have always catered to the whims of the top players. Grenades used to one shot but that was classed as being overpowered I cant think of any other pvp game where a well aimed grenade does not kill outright. Charged melees used to one shot ! Again if you can get close enough to someone to use this it should kill outright. Shoulder charge used to be fun ! hell it could be annoying at times but still make you smile. Supers have been nerfed into the ground !, It used to be a feeling of power when popping supers now your lucky to get a couple kills with most after waiting the whole game just to charge it. These changes were made in support of better players frustration that there was no gun skill In a game supposedly based around an all powerful Guardian to the detriment of other less skilled players.
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Oh yeah, it's nothing like that for me. A dev either makes a game that I like or they don't. Bungie makes great PvE content in my opinion with a few minor exceptions, but Crucible just never scratched the PvP itch.
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Thats fair, ive had some run ins with games ive bought and were like ..ehhhh. It sucks but more will come your way.
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The market is flooded with PvP shooters haha. I play CoD, Apex Legends, Halo: Infinite, Overwatch... the more arcade style shooter stuff. Min/Maxing build for PvP sounds more like traditional MMORPG stuff to me, not FPS stuff. I'd like to win or lose a firefight off skill alone, not because someone used an OP exotic, or Min/Maxed something that gives them that much of an edge. but you know, If that's how it worked in Crucible, Destiny wouldn't be Destiny anymore.
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[quote]Hey, to each their own. If it doesn't attract you then it doesn't attract you. It's not necessarily the fault of the company for not drawing your attention. You just probably have different standards and the game doesn't meet your criteria. There's nothing wrong with that. When players become obsessive and want to place the dev team to cater to your whims is where you have an issue.[/quote] The dude just gave you the response you asked for 😂 Well worded feed back. And your response "[b]you[/b] then it doesn't attract [b]you[/b]. It's not necessarily the fault of the company for not drawing [b]your[/b] attention. [b]You[/b] just probably have different standards and the game doesn't meet [b]your[/b] criteria,". --- I'm no longer directing this latter part at Necrogen. What he responded with is called Gaslighting, and As he himself stated the behaviours we shouldn't be supporting are those "axes to grind," or those who "just give backlash," -- So at this point, to the person who gave thier response to Necrogen. Bungie is very agonistic, and treats thier employees the same way as customers. We are all tools for thier Grand Over Lord Lukie Boi Smith to make millions as "he leaves his mark on the gaming industry,". Bungie doesn't change PvP, not cause they can't. Bungie doesn't accidentally nerf PvE players. They want to rationalize and normalize the Gambling Simulation they have created. It's finely tuned knife edge that is walked to ensure Bungie always has just enough interest in the game to get you playing over thier competition, and just a little enough we fight more WITH EACH other than looking at Bungie and going "Please stop." That's also why people like Necrogen exist, to stir up the pot and then set people at each other's throats. It gives him pleasure to do this to forums. I can almost bet he does this on other game and thier forums too. Starts up a dialogue only to try and spin it as some big fight between a massive group. - Necrogen I'm directing this next part back at you. The Guy gave well worded advice that explained his perspective of an opinion, it also expressed alot of people thoughts on this forum and other places like reddit and you both [i]minimized[/i] his perspective and you [i]negated[/i] his entire, well directed criticism, as some sort of "personal problem,". That sir is classic gaslighting. I do believe it is the community has a problem sometimes, other times the community does come together for a reason. This is one of those reasons.
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Bungie really doen't have much of an edge over their competition in PvP though. Apex Legends which only has 2 modes, BR and 3v3 Arenas consistently draws more players than Bungie does with both PvE and PvP offerings. CoD, PUBG, CS:GO, Team Fortress 2, all stomping Bungie with just PvP alone. CS:GO doesn't even have a console base, but it's bringing in 10x Crucible's player numbers. Check Steam Charts if you ever want to see first hand. Bungie just doesn't offer compelling PvP gameplay for a lot of people.
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[quote][quote]Hey, to each their own. If it doesn't attract you then it doesn't attract you. It's not necessarily the fault of the company for not drawing your attention. You just probably have different standards and the game doesn't meet your criteria. There's nothing wrong with that. When players become obsessive and want to place the dev team to cater to your whims is where you have an issue.[/quote] The dude just gave you the response you asked for 😂 Well worded feed back. And your response "[b]you[/b] then it doesn't attract [b]you[/b]. It's not necessarily the fault of the company for not drawing [b]your[/b] attention. [b]You[/b] just probably have different standards and the game doesn't meet [b]your[/b] criteria,". --- I'm no longer directing this latter part at Necrogen. What he responded with is called Gaslighting, and As he himself stated the behaviours we shouldn't be supporting are those "axes to grind," or those who "just give backlash," -- So at this point, to the person who gave thier response to Necrogen. Bungie is very agonistic, and treats thier employees the same way as customers. We are all tools for thier Grand Over Lord Lukie Boi Smith to make millions as "he leaves his mark on the gaming industry,". Bungie doesn't change PvP, not cause they can't. Bungie doesn't accidentally nerf PvE players. They want to rationalize and normalize the Gambling Simulation they have created. It's finely tuned knife edge that is walked to ensure Bungie always has just enough interest in the game to get you playing over thier competition, and just a little enough we fight more WITH EACH other than looking at Bungie and going "Please stop." That's also why people like Necrogen exist, to stir up the pot and then set people at each other's throats. It gives him pleasure to do this to forums. I can almost bet he does this on other game and thier forums too. Starts up a dialogue only to try and spin it as some big fight between a massive group. - Necrogen I'm directing this next part back at you. The Guy gave well worded advice that explained his perspective of an opinion, it also expressed alot of people thoughts on this forum and other places like reddit and you both [i]minimized[/i] his perspective and you [i]negated[/i] his entire, well directed criticism, as some sort of "personal problem,". That sir is classic gaslighting. I do believe it is the community has a problem sometimes, other times the community does come together for a reason. This is one of those reasons.[/quote] Yes, you caught me detective, im here to make sure i pit everyone on the froums against each other. This is how i get my kicks. Now that my master plan as been unfurled, i will continue to do exactly as you stated. Or...hear me out Your a fng twit and spun a narrative that has 0 to do with anyone here. Let the adults talk from now on okay?
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Editado por Azrael-Symphony: 6/16/2022 10:02:52 PM[quote][quote][quote]Hey, to each their own. If it doesn't attract you then it doesn't attract you. It's not necessarily the fault of the company for not drawing your attention. You just probably have different standards and the game doesn't meet your criteria. There's nothing wrong with that. When players become obsessive and want to place the dev team to cater to your whims is where you have an issue.[/quote] The dude just gave you the response you asked for 😂 Well worded feed back. And your response "[b]you[/b] then it doesn't attract [b]you[/b]. It's not necessarily the fault of the company for not drawing [b]your[/b] attention. [b]You[/b] just probably have different standards and the game doesn't meet [b]your[/b] criteria,". --- I'm no longer directing this latter part at Necrogen. What he responded with is called Gaslighting, and As he himself stated the behaviours we shouldn't be supporting are those "axes to grind," or those who "just give backlash," -- So at this point, to the person who gave thier response to Necrogen. Bungie is very agonistic, and treats thier employees the same way as customers. We are all tools for thier Grand Over Lord Lukie Boi Smith to make millions as "he leaves his mark on the gaming industry,". Bungie doesn't change PvP, not cause they can't. Bungie doesn't accidentally nerf PvE players. They want to rationalize and normalize the Gambling Simulation they have created. It's finely tuned knife edge that is walked to ensure Bungie always has just enough interest in the game to get you playing over thier competition, and just a little enough we fight more WITH EACH other than looking at Bungie and going "Please stop." That's also why people like Necrogen exist, to stir up the pot and then set people at each other's throats. It gives him pleasure to do this to forums. I can almost bet he does this on other game and thier forums too. Starts up a dialogue only to try and spin it as some big fight between a massive group. - Necrogen I'm directing this next part back at you. The Guy gave well worded advice that explained his perspective of an opinion, it also expressed alot of people thoughts on this forum and other places like reddit and you both [i]minimized[/i] his perspective and you [i]negated[/i] his entire, well directed criticism, as some sort of "personal problem,". That sir is classic gaslighting. I do believe it is the community has a problem sometimes, other times the community does come together for a reason. This is one of those reasons.[/quote] Yes, you caught me detective, im here to make sure i pit everyone on the froums against each other. This is how i get my kicks. Now that my master plan as been unfurled, i will continue to do exactly as you stated. Or...hear me out Your a fng twit and spun a narrative that has 0 to do with anyone here. Let the adults talk from now on okay?[/quote] The fact you insulted me immediately cause I mentioned you ignored everything the OP of the post you responded, only to simply try and gaslight him. Than your insulting me and trying to negate/cancel me by trying to act confused, is a classic gaslighting technique used in abusive friendships/relationships. After you yourself said, "people are just here to have an axe to grind,", you yourself grind said axe repeatedly into multiple people, that's just projecting onto other people. "your a fng twit and spun a narrative that has 0 to do with anyone here. let the adults talk from now on okay," It sounds more like "People are not listening to me so I'm gonna knock a glass off the table," aka,my cat called Artemis, last night when I had friends over -- Are you afraid people won't listen you so you try to make a giant scene? I mean children, cats, and lonely adults all have the fear of being alone in common. Is that why you gaslight others Necrogen?
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[quote] The adults are talking so go sit down bub, I'll bring you a drink in a few moments. The fact you insulted me immediately cause I mentioned you ignored everything the OP of the post you responded, only to simply try and gaslight him. Than your insulting me and trying to negate/cancel me by trying to act confused, is a classic gaslighting technique used in abusive friendships/relationships. After you yourself said, "people are just here to have an axe to grind,", you yourself grind said axe repeatedly into multiple people, that's just projecting onto other people. "your a fng twit and spun a narrative that has 0 to do with anyone here. let the adults talk from now on okay," It sounds more like "People are not listening to me so I'm gonna knock a glass off the table," aka,my cat called Artemis, last night when I had friends over -- Are you afraid people won't listen you so you try to make a giant scene? I mean children, cats, and lonely adults all have the fear of being alone in common. Is that why you gaslight others Necrogen? [/quote] Are you done? If the person I was responding to has an issue with what I say then he has every right to respond to it and we can talk about it. My intention is not to dismiss him in any way You however are not here to discuss anything. You're misrepresenting my intention in my thread and spinning a narrative in attempts to embarrass me. Its not working. So, when you're ready to sit at the big table, you let me know okay?
