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1/4/2022 10:22:29 AM
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Time to bring back SBMM Bungie
Crucible balance is out of control and is only getting worse. Just bring back SBMM. If you match players by skill lobbies will be more balanced. Some skilled pvpers looking for a casual experience (pubstomping noobs) might cry about it but oh well. They aren't being punished for being good. How is it a punishment to make them face people their own skill level? That's like an NFL player complaining that he has to play people in his own league rather than pubstomping high school football players. It's honestly quite pathetic.
I say some skilled pvpers since not all are bad. Some skilled pvpers are looking for a healthy challenge and want to face people of their own skill.
I also want to emphasize that SBMM brings healthy challenge unlike what some skilled pvpers say. It pares you against people of your own skill. That is a challenge. It is also a healthy challenge since that is the best environment to grow in. It is an environment where you actually have the ability to try out tactics and see how they work. As you get better you will also face better people. CBMM crucible isn't like that. The challenge it brings is not healthy. You cannot learn in that environment when you are getting spawn killed every 5 seconds.
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4 RespuestasFrom 2019-2020 it failed hard, it was shelved in less than 12 months
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2 RespuestasNah. I'm already receiving enough negative movement. My whole screen might get turned upside down if they turn that on.
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9 RespuestasYou know what happens with sbmm??? Better players que with the worst player they can find as fireteam lead and get to farm…
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Everyone keeps bringing up pro sports like it doesnt happen there too. The jacksonville jaguars have literally no business being on the same field as most their opponents. They have a fraction of the skill a lot of other teams have. Yet they still play them every season. Same goes for every other sport. You have the elites and you have to fodder. People also forget we had sbmm and people complained just as much. And no, not just the streamers/top players. Theres nothing bungie can do to please everyone.
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So we can get the same amount of people complaining about SBMM? They got rid of it for a reason -
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3 RespuestasEveryone who wants SBMM back never played when SBMM was actually implemented. It’s hilarious that the people who spend the least amount of time in crucible, and by extension aren’t very good, demand changes that effect entire playlists.
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May as well give it a try because what they are doing now is not working.
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Editado por BANZAI GEXX: 1/6/2022 4:27:08 PMBring in ranked play lists in comp. Special emblems for your ranking. This way the sweats can flash their true skill level. As for 6v6 eliminate KD. Make it just a fun mode. If you want KD Ranked comp is where you would go. As for 6v6 leave it CBMM. Bring back rift etc. from D1. Track only win/ loss in 6v6. With people not worried about their precious KD going down this would encourage the use of more random/ fun load outs. This would also prevent non clan/ friends stacks farming just for KD.
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2 RespuestasEditado por illz: 1/6/2022 2:18:08 AMWe are not in cbmm. We are in lobby balancing. https://twitter.com/a_dmg04/status/1478470144024363015?s=21 Next step is sbmm. If you want healthy competition then comp exists. Many good players play scrims vs each other. Quickplay isn’t the nfl. Quickplay is quickplay. Osiris / scrims/ tornys are nfland the prizes are just. I play solo a lot n prefer good connections vs the lobby balance or sbmm connections. I have around 55,000 kills this season alone n play a lot of pvp. Cbmm is where it’s at. Some you lose, some you win but you can use fun builds. Sbmm is 6 man comp sweaty meta try hard 247 with extreme lag and no reward. In cbmm it’s random and so many average people play that it allows new players to become better over time. Sbmm wont make anybody good, it just keeps them at that level. I got much better over 7 years playing cbmm vs sbmm In destiny. The top 1% are rare and this game has p2p connections and gets 1 new map per 3 years. Its casual fun and nobody wants to sweat it 247. Just watch some vids/ upgrade the set up and practice You shouldn’t punish people who played and become good without giving them a proper ranked mode, maps, rewards and proper servers. Why do people think it’s on the devs to make them great without putting in time to become better. I guarantee that anybody can become very good at destiny by simply watching a few videos n playing a few hours a day for a month. Is it a trend to not be able to be good at something at the expense of others in a game player vs player? The worse somebody is, the more they can learn each and every game. But the individual has to want to learn. I will happily lose to better players all day long as it teaches me. I did for 2 years. I didn’t blame streamers or bungie, it was me in pvp who had to learn and adapt.
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2 RespuestasHere come all the sweats to vote this post down.
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4 RespuestasLobby Balancing is the reason for all this mess. If they bring back full SBMM be prepared to play NOTHING BUT FULL STACKS.
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They could add it for the players it would benefit and leave theplayers it would be a detriment to out of it. Like tiered levels. That should work for everybody, right?
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*some* lobbies will be more balanced. Know what actually needs to be addressed as well? Lobby balancing.
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1 RespuestaIncredible. Everything you just said is wrong.
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Yes let’s increase lag by using mm that artificially lowers the population a player can face and not address the real issue (team balancing being very off & no outlier protection)
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Its already in elim and comp. Play that then. I play elim all the time and people still complain to me that I’m pub stomping or sweating but it’s SBMM so isn’t that what you people want?
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I would agree, there should be something to keep me as a .5 K/D player from having to compete against 2 and 3 K/D players. I sometimes get no kills in a match and don't even get credit for it for the weekly crucible challenge. Bungie's participation algorithm thinks I'm not playing when I'm just bad.
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3 RespuestasIt’s been in the game for 4 years now buddy.
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2 RespuestasCrucible in general is just at a higher standard. I would be considered a ‘good’ player and I don’t enjoy playing it. SBMM won’t help and just make games more laggy. An increased player base / incentive is needed for average players to want to play. Witch Queen is likely your next chance for this.
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Have u also noted how down voted every sbmm post gets
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Play survival
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1 RespuestaBut isn't comp sbmm?
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Yep, and especially in IB.
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Trust me you do not want sbmm trust me when we had it, it was the worst if you think it’s bad now with either rolling teams or getting stomped then most games would either be you just getting stomped or having to swear with a six man cause that’s all it was
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leave CASUAL GAME MODES alone , maybe for rumble will work
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Too little too late. Sbmm won't fix the issue, the playerbase is too far gone and most of the community are bad. So bad that if it was implemented only they would be able to play.
