It’s stale Poorly managed, over priced & badly optimised Muddled as f*** for new players (and for some old heads) Cross play has broken it (especially PvP) Way too much attention paid to Trials & Raids Sunsetting was bolloxs (as is reusing assets & old weapons with poor perks) The hamster is nearly dead & it’s [b]still[/b] got the best gunplay/movement in any FPS/Lootshoot & easy to pick up & join in a fireteam

Yes. For a particular type of player. Destiny 2 is a very good game...and becoming better by the day....[i][b]for the player who wants a game that is a blend of MMO....action-RPG...and FPS.[/b][/i] It gives people a chance to taste what MMOs are like without having to make the game a second (or first) job. It is one of the most viscerally-satisfying FPS out on the market, and very few action-RPGs have game mechanics that are this good. This fun. This satisfying The weak point in the game has always been the RPG elements, as Bungie spent the first 5 years of the game fighting that aspect of the game's identity. Bungie has been leaning INTO this part of the game's identity now for over 2 years. This aspect of the game is improving with each new expansion and with each passing season. IOW, the game has found its audience in PVE, and is starting to fire on all cylinders. The problem is during the prior 5 years, the game tried to be everything to everyone. So it drew a lot of other people who wanted a different game, and a different experience. They lost that struggle for control over the fate of the game, and their mad. Some understandably so (PVP), others not so much. PVP players...many of whom wanted a game that was a spritual successor to Halo...are frustrated with Destiny 2, and rightly so. Bungie keeps holding out the hopes of an experience (balanced, competitive shooter) that they have not delivered on, and likely will NEVER deliver on. But instead of being transparent on this, they keep doubling down on "fixing" the problems with PVP. When the reality is that the problems are baked into the design of the game itself. I watched a podcast with two sandbox devs last week, and watched subtly try to move the goalposts on the notion that "Your Guardian is your Guardian in PVE and PVP". "Well we didn't mean that we intended for your super to have the exact same cooldown in PVE as in PVP..." Yes. You did...and that's exactly how the game was managed for 7 years because you didn't have the ability to manage it any other way. But instead of being candid about this....we get (I'm being VERY generous here) **spun** instead. While we start parsing the meaning of previous statements. In fairness. to the devs, they may have been limited in terms of what they could talk about, and so took the path that was open to them. Also PVP has largely been ignored for the last 2 years. Bungie's efforts to return Trials to the game have been lackluster. Finally, they have no compelling new content to add to the PVP side of the game for at least another year. So I have to say that Destiny 2 is NOT a good game from a PVP perspective. By contrast, Bungie has been very candid and transparent about where they intended to take the game in PVE...and you have a lot of people who are mad because Bungie said what they were going to do, and did what they said. Built an Action-MMO for the "hobbyist" player. The problem is you have factions within the player base who don't want that kind of game. Don't want to feel pressured to commit that kind of time and energy to one game....and they're mad....and want to blame Bungie for it. Whereas, from my perspective, Bungie's only fault in this is that it took them 5 years to settle on a common vision for the game, when that should have happened in the first year or two of the franchise. Instead Bungie was caught up in an internal conflict over this issue that took multiple management shakeups and a split with Activision to finally resolve. But it has been resolved.

So much potential...squandered.

No, it's a pretty shallow experience all around.