if you cant dodge Jotunn you are bad! This guns isnt op like people think, did you try it?

Ahhhh. Hate that shatterdave. That dude is a jerk..

[quote]First let me excuse myself, I don’t speak english that good. All destiny players, pvp and pve want a better pvp, more fair between all players. The new super is really op and not that fair. Destiny 1 was a way better balanced for this. And the stase is so Op and better than other supers, the shatterdave is almost a super you can have every round when well executed and no devs think about balance in pvp and now the pvp is really bad… Jotun is a auto aim one shot weapon? Is this normal… Pistolero don’t have extra heal when carried so it is one of the worst super for osiris. It should be buff a bit or put the same health for every super in the game. We want someone that observe pvp weapons and just balance it and nerf or buff weapons lr type of weapons and create meta like D1. To keep your destiny pvp players and some pve players who like pvp you should really be aware about that and make the pvp greater We want a balanced pvp because we love destiny. Thanks[/quote] I’m sorry but you’re blinded by nostalgia. D1 PvP was a mess. We never had a balanced or stable meta. In terms of balance, D2 PvP far surpasses it. Look at it now, aside from a few outliers, the Crucible is actually balanced in terms of weapons being strong or weak and you don’t feel at a disadvantage when using a gun. In D1, you NEEDED certain guns to actually compete otherwise you were at a disadvantage. Thorn/Last Word/Red Death meta, Red Death/Nirwen’s Mercy meta, Clever Dragon/HC meta, Special ammo meta; those were just bad to play because they were one-dimensional

It wasn’t good in d1

this type of game will never be balanced, atm we have a very solid primary balance ,

This games pvp will never be balanced, as long as pvp and pve are forced to share the same sandbox. Because balancing it will destroy pve. That’s what happened when Bungie went to fixed weapon rolls, dual primaries and long ability cooldowns in vanilla Destiny 2. It was so unpopular that it nearly destroyed the game.

Pvp was good in d1? One shot fusion grenades? Shade step back to back? No class abilities. Hawk moon 1 tapping. Thorn 2 tapping. Ice breaker. Bro I could go on lol

First let me say, your English is better than I am in any language except English. Good job writing this in a second language. But as far as D1 being better ... I am a time traveler of sorts. I played tons of D1 from when it came out until D2 came out. I played some D2 Y1, then burned out and stopped playing until this year. I am getting back into it. This includes reading this board. For me, what people were saying here about D1 is like yesterday. And, the board was actually more negative then. It is funny to me to see people now presenting D1 like a golden age. During that golden age, this board was nothing but complaints, including PvP. Some of the same complaints as today. Shotgun sliders, quick-scope snipers, unbalanced supers, unbalanced grenades, matchmaking, lack of matchmaking, etc. The only way to really balance PvP would be a Halo approach where everybody has identical abilities and weapons/grenades, and even then, people will complain about matchmaking, connection speed, maps, gametypes, etc. JMO.

D2 is never going to be as good as d1. The community has changed. People nowadays accept weapons like jotunn because “you can just dodge it”. Braindeads.