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9/14/2021 1:06:33 PM
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The easiest fix is to make shatterdive work like missile titans ballistic slam. I.e it would require momentum to activate, meaning that if you threw a grenade mid air you can not instantly shatter it. That's how it works with ballistic slam and it even consumes your melee charge when you do it.
To me that sounds reasonable. How about you?
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I have the same idea. It’s what shatterdive should’ve been from the beginning.
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This would likely kill shatterdive much like it killed cryoclasm (shatter slide) for behemoth titan(which resulted in a swift rework to make it useful again). Not a change im a fan of at all.
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If this is the case the frozen from the grenades needs to be longer which is something I don’t think Bungie wants to do. I imagine you’d have to throw your grenade first, sprint to charge up, then jump and dive which by the time all that is done the enemy for sure is not frozen anymore. This was the same issue Titans had when Bungie implemented the charge up to cryoclasm, it made shattering feel really awkward. They fixed this by making any slide break crystals now, but I’m not sure how that could be implemented on shatterdive. I think the one solution is to have a cooldown in between the time you throw your grenade and dive. This way it will prevent the insta kill wombo combo but won’t completely ruin the use of grenade and diving.
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Fair point but do remember that titans can't combo either. Throwing grenade while sprinting ends your momentum meaning you have to sprint again to activate a slide.
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Yup and thats why it felt so bad. You’d have to throw your grenade while out of sprint and then you’d charge up your slide and shatter. Often times enemies would already be unfrozen. And worse part is that because it’s a sprint ability, you can’t use it up close like shatterdive which gives your enemy time to unfreeze and escape.
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Yup. After reading this thread more I'm convinced that it can't be balanced without being neutered to uselessness as a shattering tool. It's a neat movement tool though, counters the only bad thing about hunter jumps.
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I think my idea is a good compromise. I think the frustration with the grenade/shatterdive combo is its ability to insta-kill anything around them. If you introduce a cooldown in between the time you toss a grenade and the time you can shatterdive, it’ll force hunters to throw that grenade from a distance because it’s no longer an insta-kill-everything-around-me ability. This solves the problem because the danger now isn’t a Hunter rushing you with a mini-bomb essentially, the danger now is a grenade toss, just like any other grenade you’d want to avoid.
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This might be the best suggestion I’ve seen yet.
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This means that shatter dive needs to do damage like BS and I for one do not want that
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Shatterdive itself already does damage. I'm not really catching what you mean, care to elaborate?
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If SD is going to work like BS, then it should do the same damage on its own. The dive itself isn’t the problem, it’s not hard to kill a hunter diving once you see their playstyle with stasis and the damage number it hits you with is so small that it should kill you in any way. The grenade I think is something you should focus on more with the aspect. You can shatter it before it fully forms and it will do the same damage. Maybe not letting shatter dive break it until it is fully formed could lessen how cheesy it is. Again, the shatterdive move is fine imo and the grenade combo movement is what needs to be adjusted
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I feel like you don't get what I mean. SD would _not_ consume a melee charge but it would function like BS so that you couldn't jump + grenade + shatter combo in less than half a second. It's just too fast.
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So have to throw a glacier run a few meters while they unfreeze to shatter dive a few meters at most ? Wher bs can slam like 30m distances Won’t happen
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Oh you mean like Titans have to do? Oh poor hunters that would be awful to be as weak as titans huh?
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You don’t even play all 3 classes you’re narrow minded opinion isn’t valid 😂
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Lol funny you would say that without actually looking at my stats. Just because I don't currently have a hunter doesn't mean I never did.
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Kid how is that relevant to the current state of stasis and shatterdive in the current sandbox that you don’t play a hunter in I’ll wait lol
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Lol the current state? I erased my hunter last week loser. All you have for an argument is that I don't have a hunter? Pathetic.
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And my argument was not all 3 classes should be the same and you don’t play hunter and whine about it You never rebutted just childish remarks 🤷♂️🤔
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Lol just more deflecting from the actual argument. I've probably played more hunter than you have. You're so afraid of a nerf you won't even stay on topic.[quote]And my argument was not all 3 classes should be the same [/quote]I didn't say your argument was all three classes should be the same I said you have literally no argument at all...because you're a low intellect high emotion scrub.
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The fact you think arguing a video game is intleect says enough man take care haha
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Editado por Truthiness_Inc: 9/16/2021 4:56:12 AM[quote]The fact you think arguing a video game is [b][i]intleect [/i][/b]says enough man take care haha [/quote]LMAO! You can't even spell intellect. That's a much better indicator of your diminished capacity lol. Have a great day.
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You need that site a lot? Seems like maybe you've got some depression issues if that's the kind of site you frequent.
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Pathetic it’s under you’re skin this much 😂 don’t play hunter don’t comment on it or you’re just another forum cry baby go get a bottle kid xoxo
