try not to post that you are having fun using a weapon or subclass or whatever if bungie think your having a good time using a fun weapon/ability it will get nerfed :)

I mean anything new that gets put into the game will eventually be nerfed and pvp will end up being the root cause of it. Let’s see wasnt it the new hunter boots that are “broken” have already received a mass complaint and mainly for gambit and pvp because it allowed the charge of a super fast. Yea gambit is more pvp than pve anyways. I mean a balance to pvp sure it needs to happen. But this is bungie and it will have a pve change as well when it doesn’t need one for pve. Also anarchy’s nerf or change was not needed cause of the stupid seasonal artifact that what buffed arc weapons and abilities or something like that. It made pve alittle easier than normal. So what. When anarchy was first released very few players had it and used it. When it drop rate was increased more players got it but it was still rarely seen. Then it was all of a sudden a seasonal mod came out with the artifact that made the weapon to powerful and players started using it more and having fun. Heavens. Why would that be an issue. You see where I’m going with this. Egos asides which I know some can’t. For pve there needs to be an obvious power fantasy to keep players interested and we can’t have that if everything we get new or other wise is nerfed or changed to be different than what it should. Pvp I make it obvious and outstanding that I do not care for it because it is the base root cause of many thing wrong with the game.

Breach and clear lead to Anarchy nerf. Particle Deconstruction will probably get fusions blanket nerfed. Yet, it's fusion season and getting good fusions is cool, but when will they get nerfed? You mean that feeling?

[quote]It’s been a very annoying pattern. Something good comes out or something gets buffed, then 3-6 months later, nerfed. This has happened with every major buff in the game.[/quote] This is all planned. They call it powercreep and they say it's bad for the game but that is just a publicity stunt. The real reason why they do it is called controlled meta. I saw a guy here some time ago said powercreep sells. And that is exactly what they are doing. They are selling powercreep to you so you could run around chasing that next best thing. The real reason is controlled meta, dangling that power carrot just enough to get everyone running the hamster wheel and then they'll switch that powercreep button again and switches into a different meta again. Rinse and Repeat like clockwork and the cycle goes again. Powercreep sells and they've been selling you this since the beginning. They will sell it to you again over and over because that's what makes you run the hamster wheel forever. Now throw money at screen! [quote]It would be nice to have a certain sense of stability when it comes to buffs and new weapons, knowing that they won’t be immediately destroyed a few months down the line just because they’re complained about in PVP.[/quote] That's one of the reasons I quit the game. A sense of stability. It's not there in the game. You could feel an external hand tweaking your favorite gun it's so artificial it feels like playing in a sandbox with other children but your Mommy is holding your hand while you play and the other kids are laughing at you. And that Mommy holding your hand is called the Architects! It feels so fake! [quote]Vex Mythoclast is a perfect example of this. It’s awesome, now one of the best guns in the game thanks to the recent buff, but people are already complaining about it being too strong in PvP. Who’s fault is that? The devs.[/quote] Precisely. Vex Mythoclast is a great example. Not everyone has it. You can't easily get it. And if players want to get it, they have to go to a certain activity and maybe run it over and over until RNG gives it to them. Perfect example of selling powercreep and keep gamers running the hamster wheel until then. Vex Mythoclast can also be used as a carrot to entice millions of veteran gamers who already left the game a long time ago. You see Mythoclast was iconic back in the day when it came out in D1. That's another form we could call selling powercreep back into the game. A trick to entice those Destiny veterans an iconic gun. But the veterans who left, they all know this is just a trick and they may nerf the gun back and tone it down again. They already know this trick called controlled meta. That's why they are not coming back. And probably will never come back anymore. The selling of powercreep and then toning it down via controlled meta is already getting old. And the vets know this trick. Of course, they've been playing it for years, and that's what the game has offered them. A shallow and empty shell. All in all, I want to conclude this discussion that over the years, I finally understand why they call their game evolving. Because your guns are evolving from something strong to something weak in a matter of months, sometimes weeks. It happens to your supers and subclasses too, sometimes in just a matter of days! Evolving! (Laughing on the floor!!!)

That’s why I quit the game. Why bother paying and grinding if everything released is either bad or will soon become bad by being nerfed? Makes no sense. On top of that, the vault has been tiny for years, so your game loop is constantly deleting blues, legendaries and exotics. I’m so glad I switched to a better looter game like Genshin Impact that from the get go has 10 times the size of destiny’s vault, and there has never been a single nerf since the game released, and trust me, there are EXTREMELY powerful loadouts that the devs know about but refuse to nerf, and the game still retains difficulty and challenges. It is night and day difference. That game my have issues too, but at least there I have the peace of mind in knowing that my weapon will not be nerfed to the ground in a few months.

I actually find it somewhat liberating. It means I’m never going to be stuck using “the meta” for long. They always give us a seasonal meta. This season is Fusion Rifles. Previously I wouldn’t have touched Fusions, but now there’s reason. No matter what gets nerfed, they’re always going to give us a very strong option to replace it. I can live with that.

Oh mythoclast will definitely be nerfed. But not now. I say give it some time. Once the fusion mod is gone, it'll be fine in terms of damage. The range will definitely need to be brought in though.

Today I found out of something that's really good against bosses, like really really good, but I won't be a dumb youtuber/streamer and scream it to the world so that the crybabies complain about it even if its something that's good for the game.

Doesn't always take months. Look how long Lorentz driver lasted before the PvP complaints started and a nerf was brought out. 😜 Moaning from the PvP crowd is why we can't have nice things. Anything even REMOTELY powerful is impossible in this game.

Well pvp is unplayable, especially stacks of people with Mithoclast vex ,there's no counter to it is already getting out of hand.

I have vex and have used it pretty much exclusively in PvP this season. It is too strong. Things can be strong without being outliers - the messenger, le momarque to name a couple. Balance requires buffs and nerfs and I think the sandbox is in a pretty good state but vex is a bit strong.