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Editado por SteelDrifter468:
5/28/2021 6:52:42 AM
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You have your roles, best boss damage, best debuff, and incredibly good survivability.
Celestial nighthawk for single bursts, star eater scales for pure damage, star eater scales for the best debuff on tether, giving you and your teammates damage resistance and invisibility via omnioculus.
Hunters are not only the jack of all trades, but the master of most. If you want to take the best support/buffer role then you can try and pry it from the cold dead warlock players hands who just want to stop getting hit with nerfs. The only thing you guys aren’t good at is mobility for the jumping puzzles.
Oh yeah, and you guys complained about getting a buff to one of the best 4 in 1 exotics in the game because it takes 5-6 orbs to hit the original 60% after the tweak and 8 to hit 90% bonus on super damage/effects.
Honestly? I want to see hunters get the hard nerfs they deserve in PvP and PvE at the same time so they could be in line with titans and warlocks. But i know that won’t happen due to some more than obvious favoritism at bungies HQ. for now i’ll just watch as they get buffs to powerful exotics and laugh when they start having panic attacks and start posting hunters are bad” posts onto the forums.
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Not best Boss Damage, not best Debuff and not "incredibly" good survivability. "You have your roles" shows how biased you are. Warlocks and Titans are the better Supporters. Invisibility is just helpful but does not reach the same level of support. Well, Bubble and Shield ensure that you can stay alive AND do Damage. You only had one reasonable point which was Invisibility but the rest was either misinformation or lies. If what you say is true then everyone would want Hunters for Hard Content but they don´t. You are trying to change the narrative because of your own favoritism.
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Editado por BoyarD: 5/29/2021 9:30:22 PMStar eater scales won't be doing 90% pretty soon because it was an unintentional buff. Using tether with them doesn't do anything either besides impact damage. The weapon buff was also taken out. Celestial is going to be better after the nerf. You can to get your super faster than gathering more orbs with scale eater and in turn do more dps Our "best debuff" get outshined by other debuffs Hunters are by no means bad in PvE but asking for nerfs in PvE to be brought down to the other classes? What? I'd argue they have the least amount of versatility out of the 3 classes.
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Nerfs to hunters in general or to hunter exotics? That's an important distinction.
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Editado por Meow Fairy: 5/28/2021 2:09:44 PMWarlocks are better than hunters in pve lmao. Hunters are fun to mess around but honestly. We dont need hunters at all in an endgame activity. We do not need a super to debuff when we have weapons and mods doing the same job. Nighawhk burst isnt that interesting even on atheon where you can land 3 nighthawk. Survavibility...cool you can go invis, but thats pretty much it. Warlocks and titans can litteraly deny every damage taken. Try to one phase the templar or killing atheon using hunters only, will be a harder experience even if possible than going 6 warlocks And dont rely on slug shotguns to melt bosses, you will not have the range without lunafaction x) Huntere needs a buff in pve and pvp because honestly...none of their subclass (except stasis) is really worth using compared to other classes. And its coming from a hunter main who gave up and went to warlock and titan for a fun and powerfull experience on any subclass (And yes star eaters brings the dmg of goldy up to thundercrash but requieres a ton of preparation and i highly doubt you will manage to get all of your stacks 2 or 3 times in a single atheon dps phase without just wasting all of your time)
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Hunters don't really need any PvP buffs besides some outlier trees and mostly hit detection with the melee supers. Same can be said for every class. They really could use something for PvE besides the niche exotics that aren't necessarily needed.
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Hunters don't really need any PvP buffs besides some outlier trees and mostly hit detection with the melee supers. Same can be said for every class. They really could use something for PvE besides the niche exotics that aren't necessarily needed.
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Hunters need a pvp buff? Lmfaooo but seriously celestial damage is supposed to be weaker than thundercrash we can use atheon as the perfect example ive seen plenty of titans dying from using thundercrash but celestial is 100% safe. You dont need to be the highest burst damage to be viable and even more so the star eater scales buff to golden brings it in line with thundercrash. Harder to get max stacks but once again completely safe.
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[quote]Hunters need a pvp buff? Lmfaooo but seriously celestial damage is supposed to be weaker than thundercrash we can use atheon as the perfect example ive seen plenty of titans dying from using thundercrash but celestial is 100% safe. You dont need to be the highest burst damage to be viable and even more so the star eater scales buff to golden brings it in line with thundercrash. Harder to get max stacks but once again completely safe.[/quote] Theres is no star eater scales buff boss. They said its a bug that it does 90% land is geting nerfed back to original damage but with the orb requirement being 8. They literally shat all over that exptic to the point every single hunter main will tell you, that shits a hold x/square and in the hefty bag.
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Wrong they said 90% was not the intention but it will be higher at max stack than it originally was. Believe it was dmg who tweeted it
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[quote]Wrong they said 90% was not the intention but it will be higher at max stack than it originally was. Believe it was dmg who tweeted it[/quote] 75% i believe is what they are going to. Still a nerf regardless. Celestial is better. Op is correct. And if u disagree ur a trash can.
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Ive seen 0 titans dying while doing their thundercrash on atheon. If your mates sucks thats another story my friend. Golden gun is "safe" but harder to land without an insane reward (also blade barrage with galanors is better on atheon) And in pvp, a lot of subclass needs a buff for hunter. Because besides stasis wich is OP for sure, and spectral blades wich are good (unless they are used against stasis) The rest in pvp is...ehh... -arcstrider : good luck to catch up a flying /skating warlock or titan with this low duration super And the overall subclass is...eh...ok tiers hence why it disappeared from pvp since a verrrrrry long time. -tether (both) : yeah you can be invisible so cool, but works against idiots in qp only, and the super is one of the easiest in the game to dodge and counter. And smoke are just a less interesting slow than stasis. -golden guns : they are fun in qp, but with 0 mobility and not that much powerfull tools...with a REALLY short duration super...once again just a super fun to kill n00bs in qp. But good players will just wait a few seconds until your super is over or just suprise you while you are trying to find somebody to shoot. -blade barrage : the overall subclass is built around the knives, wich arent that good in pvp, and the super is beyond trashtiers. It doesnt counter any super most of the time. Its inconsistent AF (its not rare to have blades all over your screen just to realize you just take half of your hp) Poo poo tiers. The true reason why hunters are so good in pvp is their jump and dodge, its a gameplay that synergize really well with shotguns/sniping and handcanons. Wich are the 3 community favorite weapons. But other than that the overall abilities/subclasses are just poo poo tiers
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Im not going to just dismiss your opinion because youre not a top tier pvp player. That said you are way off with alot. If we talk no abilities hunters have the best mobility in the game and stompees makes that difference in mobility insane. As for abilities bottom tree golden gun easily shuts down supers with little effort. Weighted knife being a ohk is decent i wont say its celestial fire levels of good but its good none the less. Abilites are nice but having the best neutral game wins more games
