I see your point and I agree that sniper anti-barrier mod was fantastic. However, if Bungie did not change our champions mods each season the GM meta would become extremely stale and monotone after a couple of seasons since everybody would use the same weapons every single time. This has 2 downsides: 1. People will quickly become bored of the game since the same loadout won't change how you play during your GM in any way. This will lead to players feeling bored and complaining to bungie to fundamentally change the way GM works, which is something much more difficult to achieve than just varying our gameplay with different loadouts. 2. You wouldnt feel the need to grind for or keep any god rolls you get of other weapon archetypes outside of the meta. This means that players will generally play the game less and also get bored of it once again since you dont have something to chase for. Which is basically the core of Destiny: getting that sweet, sweet LOOT. I personally hate using the same weapons with the same mods every single strike/raid I do over seasons (shit, one season meta is enough to get stale at the end for me). It makes the experience all too similiar and if I then switch to an "off-meta weapon", I get the feeling that I'm intentionally making it more difficult for me to play than what it has to be just for the sake of variation.

Totally agree. And the solution is so simple: make the mods weapon mods, so I can place that anti-barrier mod in whatever weapon I want to.

Am sick of the mods... too many and need changing every new activity

I would just prefer a bit more options or combination mods (like anti barrier autor and scout in same mod). But not ”whatever” approach.

Yeah I'm sorry, but these are the worst mods I can remember using for a long time. It makes PvE unenjoyable for me. I get that it is "possible" and people are clearing the higher end content. Congrats to them. The loadouts make zero sense and all the grinding you did for that really cool special weapon make it useless outside of normal strikes and PvP. To anyone who supports this system, I ask that you reconsider and help us change it. I honestly don't think this should continue for another day. But I think we all understand that Bungie is incapable of making any changes which genuinely benefit the community on short notice. So I anticipate this will last the entire season. Which for me, means GM's and lost sectors are dead. I am not dancing around with two primaries in some of the most challenging content in the game. That is absolutely ridiculous. Think about the loadout possibilities if we just simply got to use whatever mods we wanted. A shakeup of the meta is desperately needed for Destiny right now. You cannot deny that. The first column mods for the artifact are the most boring changes I have seen in a while. Lets change it.

The best champion mod they did was the anti Barrier ranger mod. That should of been the model for future artifact mods but noooooo, bungie decided it made the game unfun. 🤨🤨😕

The best champion mod they did was the anti Barrier ranger mod. That should of been the model for future artifact mods but noooooo, bungie decided it made the game unfun. 🤨🤨😕

ya know after what im about to say, yall can blame it on me if it actually happens Im surprised how bungie hasnt had an EA level of scumminess and give you the option of buying the new exotics like I was farming the Veles Labyrinth legendary at 1310 and as soon as you start to go in the sector proper you get a Barrier Hive knight charging you with no cover available, as he unloads that hive boomer on you with a Arc dmg ++ multiplayer, while having non stop spawning trawls behind me, no to mention the explody variety that the games decides theyll just ignore all the dmg and do everything in their power to go kamikaze on you the Champion system needs to be developed, at first I got the idea of depending on the artifact cuz it was a new thing, but now ? make the Barrier, Overload and Unstoppable be a core part of the game, like I dunno, unstopable primary, solar and so one I get that they added new exotics, but does anyone really use Athrys's Embrace ? dont get me wrong Im sure it has its uses, but If im running legend lost sectors and need to use the bottom three gunslinger, im sorry but Im going NightHawk to oneshot a champion and get 30% of my supper back, and with a bit of luck get a few adds in the explosion at least make more exotic guns with these perks, not all cuz I have a hard time justifying Bad Juju having such thing, but if things like Arianas Vow which its gimmic is a hand canon that fires really big and thic bullets, why doesnt Sleeper get to bust out barriers too ? weve seen during warmind on mars the levels of power Seraph tech does

Control. That's the new end-game content. They don't have any new ones, so they control the guns instead and make you run around with guns they want you to use. I could think of 2 things why. First, they are now in control of their famous "Low-usage" excuse everytime they manipulate things around. With this system, that will help them, not you, manage this issue of favoritism and powercreep. Second, they want to control powercreep. Why?...Because powercreep sells. It's easy to control power this way now. And they can sell power easily when they can control when you're gonna use certain guns based on this system. They want to have control over how you use power. Because Powercreep sells. Always! 😂😂😂 Logic!

It let's Bungie control how we play the game. They wouldn't want us doing that.....

I'm just ready for champions to go away. Need a new mechanic. I think champions and champion mods were a good thing......for a season or two. Beyond that we should have been able to use whatever weapons we want or introduce something other than throwing champions in everything. Hopefully witch queen will do away with champions and add something unique that doesnt limit loadouts.

I feel more and more that bungie seems afraid of losing the player base for some reason, maybe thats why they feel the need to putting crap drop rates and bs mechanics to artificially extend the play time

I don't necessarily disagree, but I think that would make it a bit too simple allowing for something like Unstoppable rocket launchers for example. In my opinion, certain architypes should always have the same champion mod attached. That way we can build things the ways we want to but they still control what we use. This also ties into the idea being thrown around of [nearly] all Exotics having champion mods built in. I.e. If you want Anti-Barrier sniper, you use Honed Edge on the Izinagi. If you want Overload Machine Gun, use the Thunderlord. Stuff like that. Doing the system this way allows us to build something around the mods that work for us, as well as account for an Exotic with built in Champion mods.