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Editado por SLY CL0PS:
4/28/2021 2:35:44 PM
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Twilight Garrison
Titans need an evade. Warlocks have Icarus Dash and Blink, hunters have 3 different evades, the 2 regular ones and Backris(which is a little op I think). Titans have Zero. All we ask is for TG to come back I think that's fair.
[There are a lot of good comments on this topic. I can tell most of you must be hunters or warlocks 😆. I understand your concern. Maybe Twilight Garrison would be too much in D2 because movement, in general, is already very good.
Many have made the point that "titans already have stasis melee and shoulder charges and stasis knee slide." I was talking more about sideways movement. Like if I'm in a gun fight, it would be nice just move to the left or right real quick. That's not possible with shoulder charge, and with stasis melee you can only activate that every 30 or so seconds at best.
Someone in the comments already suggested something like this. What if Bungie gave us a different evasive exotic that activates on the ground and has some sort of a drawback. That would be much more balanced than Twilight Garrison.
On that note, does anyone have any suggestions on drawbacks on such an exotic?]
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Twilight Garrison should return. (for light classes only)
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1 RespuestaEditado por coda-jj: 4/29/2021 8:13:28 PMYes, or give me an exotic that allows me to put up my shield sooner. I’m a sitting duck when I try to pop it. It takes forever. The gap is usually closed quickly in a gunfight Mask of Backris is too op since it also can have a fragment tied to it
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For those saying no because Titan stasis is op, well then it should be a light subclass only exotic. We can’t not give Titans something because of one outlier. Same for other classes. If you are a Titan main or just play it here and there then you know that in pvp, Titan light subclasses are shit. That is one reason why it’s stasis subclass is used soo much. Not saying it’s not op but it’s a contributing factor. Please look at things outside of your personal opinions. I play all three classes and there’s good, bad, and op things about them all.
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Titans are underrepresented in Trials and comp so yeah they need a hand.
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I do think if Titans were to get a dodge mechanic, be it in the form of exotic armor or subclass characteristic, it should just provide a side-to-side dodge.
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1 RespuestaBecause your shoulder charges and stasis slide isn't enough, right?
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*clears throat* “One day the Last City will be known as the First City!”
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3 RespuestasYou have a freakin wall that you can place anywhere
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"Titans dont have anything" Shoulder charge and behemoth
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I'd love for TG to come back but this game already has too much mobility tools and the movement is just too much. If anything movement should be nerfed. Cryoclasm needs to be in line with a dunemarcher slide (it would still be really good), TTDB needs at least one of the two dashes gone and hitting your head on the ceiling on a hunter shouldn't send you flying.
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7 RespuestasEditado por Hazuki: 4/28/2021 4:57:06 PM[quote]"The dodge is too strong"[/quote] Top tree Dawnblade has it and it's not a problem imo [quote]"Stasis Titans already have a super long slide"[/quote] Then TG should only work with light subclasses. Problem solved [quote]"Being evasive is a Hunter's job"[/quote] Then explain to me why top tree dawnblade exists. I think each class should have some kind of evade. The thing that sets the Hunter dodge apart is that it can reload your gun or recharge your melee (both if you have dragon's shadow) while breaking aim assist and bullet magnetism. With an ability that does all that I think Titans having a midair dodge is perfectly fine... on light subclasses, at least because a dodge on Behemoth would be pretty dumb. Edit: (I don't usually play this card for credit in a discussion like this but I'll go for it) I'm a Hunter main and I approve of TG. My Titan friends enjoy it a lot in D1 and if Hunters want Bones of Eao back then it's fair for Titans to get Twilight Garrison, too. Thanks for reading the whole thing if you did and have a nice day :)
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Warlocks are locked to top dawn only for it to work. Could you imagine if twighlight worked on behemoth? That’s a very scary and broken prospect. Blink is bad, it’s one of them that can’t be buffed because it would be too good and can’t be nerfed, it’s just always gonna be meh. And again, locked to 1 tree of classes. Imagine a blinking dawnblade 💀 And bakris I think is made broken by stasis. Hunters get the advantage of a dodge no matter what, bakris elevates that again on 1 subclass only. Twighlight wasn’t made for d2 unfortunately. If it came back, it would have to function on only 1 of the subclasses (solar arc or void, not stasis) it would be the only way to ensure it had the same restrictions as the others. If not I greatly worry it would quickly become the most used in something like trials. However a good way around this could be to only give 1 dodge on garrison. Not as good as top tree dawn but the trade off that you pick what subclass it can be used with. I think that would perhaps work.
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3 RespuestasTitans already have an evade mechanic on EVERY subclass.... it's called a barricade that can be popped anywhere. One could argue that the animation is too slow, but thats a different conversation.
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1 RespuestaHunters mains would absolutely lose their sh!t if they brought back TG for Titans. They throw a fit every time something gets close to being comparable to their class.
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9 Respuestaswait, the tankiest class in the game [b][u]DOESNT[/u][/b] have a mobility crutch? Weird...
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6 RespuestasWould love to see twilight garrison come back and I'm a hunter main. Maybe restrict it to light subclasses and not stasis but honestly I'm just saying that to appease people who think it would be broken. I don't buy into the "titans are supposed to be slow and tanky" crowd. To me, titans are the "explode through your door and kick shit in the face" type of characters.
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That would be cool but obviously warlocks dont want that happening as they want to be the only class that can get to a sniper lane in 0.05 seconds of the match starting with crutcherous dash.
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I would love if people had a legitimate reason why this couldn’t come back
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9 RespuestasHow come the only response to everything Titans ask for is, derrrrr OHK Melees derrrr. Titans shouldn't even be able to use guns because they have OHK melees, derrr. Like, please, the actual ohk melees are so situational and so risky. Meanwhile, dodges are literal lifesavers and game changers. I can count on one hand the amount of times I've been killed be a Titan powered melee in the last 3 months. Meanwhile, getting position on a hunter who can just dodge away with ease is much more difficult to deal with.
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As a Titan main I think if they did bring it back it should be light class exclusive super slide plus twilight might be unfair.
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Nope. You have stasis melee and slide.
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Um no titans don't need twilight garrison they already have the super slide on stasis with the insane movement from the melee if you add twilight into the mix it would make stasis titan even more ridiculous than it already is.
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Editado por Kishi: 4/28/2021 11:01:59 PMSo you can sprint, stasis slide then garrison dash two times, stasis punch (which is basically another long ass dash) and finally combo it by activating ur super and roam around the map for 2minutes? Nah Titans are fine.
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3 RespuestasAren't Titans supposed to be the tanky, hard to kill class with a few exceptions (like stasis) ? Add too many exceptions and the line between titans and the others is more blurred. Put simply, if you want to move fast and be hard to hit you should be a hunter main. Titans excel in other areas, and you have to admit cryoclasm is already very powerful. The melee is also incredible. But if twilight does end up coming back it should only be on light based subclasses so it doesn't get too crazy.
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1 RespuestaBoy oh boy, back in my day titans didnt have a solar subclass. There needs to be an incentive to play each character, and every character having it's own thing is dull and boring. Hell. Bring back class specific exotics
