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Editado por jonpall:
4/10/2021 1:22:10 AM
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if youre a bad player, a good player could put on a blue shotgun and still demolish you 10 times out of 10. i played some rumble games earlier with botheration, a blue shotgun, and still farmed because, suprise suprise, a gun doesnt make a player ESPECIALLY not a shotgun. For 120s I could see the argument but with felwinters, you will lose just as hard to any other shotgun. Get better and stop getting things nerfed because you play crucible once a week for pinnacles and die to everything under the sun
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Editado por waverider666: 4/11/2021 3:50:34 AMTo say any gun could is ridiculous... everyone would be running blues and not chasing certain weapons.. Guns and perks/mods are a huge factor.
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Felwinter’s is objectively better than any other shotgun in the game lol.
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Never said it wasnt
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[quote]with felwinters, you will lose just as hard to any other shotgun.[/quote]
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Yes because while felwinters is objectively better than other shotguns the difference is marginal to the point where it wont make a difference. If you suck at the game you will die to a felwinters but you will die in all the same situations to: Mindbenders Astral Retold tale Toil and trouble Seventh seraph Felwinters is fairly consistent over other shotguns in terms of one hit kill distance but that extra meter is going to make a difference in like 1/20 of your shotty fights. Yes felwinters is the best shotgun but if you blame all your deaths on felwinters being the best shotgun then a quickdraw nerf wont save you.
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Editado por RussellMania: 4/10/2021 5:41:29 PMNot really. Felwinter’s doesn’t really have extra range, rather it’s more consistent at 8-9 meters which can easily come into play every match. Getting a ridiculous map with a Felwinter’s is something that occurs quite often. And no one said all their deaths are to blame on Felwinter’s, OP said it doesn’t take any skill which is true. In fact, all shotguns in this game except have an incredibly low skill floor.
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Shotguns definitey do take skill, farming bots in quickplay maybe not but put two shotgunners against eachother at a high level and the better one will come on top every time. It is much more than a matter of just holding W, you need good awareness, movement, positioning and so on or you will lose. The guns seem easy to use but against anyone decent they will not make it easy.
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I main control and I must say felwinters needs a major nerf. People just run around carrying it as a primary.. paired with max intellect stasis they can finish top of the board with nothing but shot gun kills and abilities and supers.. I’ve used nothing but side arms and arc Titan since d2 dropped, including the stasis launch were I was dying nearly every few seconds to op stasis grenades.. and though all that time the main constant is felwinters. Nerf it 🥳
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I can agree that felwinters needed a target nerf but any good player is going to just use retold tale or mindbenders or any other shotgun and still win in every situation. That is my point. A felwinters nerf isn't saving the casual players from their lack of skill
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Yes, but people didn’t want to put on a blue weapon, thinking since it’s blue and not purple that it is not as good. However untrue this can be, Felwinters has the best stats for all shotguns. Even if only by a little, that gets a lot more people using it than any other thing. The shotgun itself is not the problem, just the shear mass of people that use it makes it really annoying and hard to fight against. Without fast thinking, or if you don’t take action to counter a shotgun in time, it is hard to fight against. Doing that once is fine, but doing it against a whole team, having to perfectly counter several shotguns isn’t as easy
