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1/7/2021 7:32:33 PM
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I stopped watching the moment he handed out insults.
That is not conduct for a conversation.
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I rewatched the video just to be sure. No insults at all, but you do you, bro.
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1.00 in: [quote]If you deny that statement then [b]you're either delusional or simply lying to yourself[/b][/quote] :1.04
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Editado por Dubufu: 1/8/2021 6:06:06 AMHe's right though. There are severe imbalances and if you think otherwise...well, look around you. Nobody likes the state of the game right now, pvp included. You quite literally cannot disagree with it. That would be blatantly ignoring the problems and outrage. The game is in a piss poor state, and all you can do is offer suggestions on how to fix it
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Editado por OdinsKnight101: 1/8/2021 10:43:18 AMI do not think that PvP players have ever really 100% enjoyed, whatever state PvP has gone through... Not even Vanilla D2 *Shudders*... To be honest I love the state of the game right now and looking ahead into next season, I will be getting some weapons I adored from D1 and not having to do PvP for them, has me singing praises. What has me singing praises already though, is the being able to reliable grind exotics on my own, for the stats I require and then easily farm the legendary pieces and create a build around it all. The fact we are getting more choices next season is an amazing bonus for me. I do have my own feedback for PvP though: - Bring back Rift - Make a Europa map. The last time they ''listened'' it was so fast and stung hard for PvE players, that they had to walk it back to something reasonable. It reminded me when they destroyed the feel of Titans shoulder charge for a short time, almost made me quit the game at that point.
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[quote]1.00 in: [quote]If you deny that statement then [b]you're either delusional or simply lying to yourself[/b][/quote] :1.04[/quote] Yep that’s where I lost any hope for dialogue. If you start out from the false premise that people who don’t agree with you are delusional or lying themselves you are just there to soap box, which is about as uninteresting as it gets.
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If you actually believe that D2 isn’t a PvE and PvP game, then we have nothing to say to each other anyway, so don’t worry about it. It’s like arguing with flat earthers or climate change deniers.
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[quote]If you actually believe that D2 isn’t a PvE and PvP game, then we have nothing to say to each other anyway, so don’t worry about it. It’s like arguing with flat earthers or climate change deniers.[/quote] It’s not, it’s a PVE game with a PVP mode. Always has been.
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Actually it’s a PvP game with a bit of PvE thrown in. Or at least it is for me. My point, which you (probably unintentionally) just agreed with, is that it’s both.
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[quote]Actually it’s a PvP game with a bit of PvE thrown in. Or at least it is for me. My point, which you (probably unintentionally) just agreed with, is that it’s both.[/quote] No, I was clear about the reality and all the sources that back it up. It is a PVE game with a PVP mode. The entire design of the game has been the same since the beginning. It will never be PVP first, and it will never have PVE abandoned for PVP.
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What sources? You didn’t include any sources other than your own opinion. And Bungie made it clear that PvP also won’t be abandoned, which is something the “iT’s A pVe GaMe, ReMoVe CrUcIbLe” crowd conveniently forgets. Anyway, I’ve wasted enough time here. If you have ideas on how to improve PvP, besides what TV suggested, I’d love to hear them. Otherwise, see ya.
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[quote]What sources? You didn’t include any sources other than your own opinion. And Bungie made it clear that PvP also won’t be abandoned, which is something the “iT’s A pVe GaMe, ReMoVe CrUcIbLe” crowd conveniently forgets. Anyway, I’ve wasted enough time here. If you have ideas on how to improve PvP, besides what TV suggested, I’d love to hear them. Otherwise, see ya.[/quote] I did in my original comment you ignored, just like you ignore everything that doesn’t fit your...oops I mean TVs narrative.
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That isn't an insult. Many people run around being delusional or lying to themselves these days....
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If I called my boss delusional I'm pretty sure it wouldn't end well. Just saying.
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Yeah that’s not an insult. It’s a simple statement of fact. Destiny isn’t a PvE game. It’s a PvE and PvP game. I don’t see how this is even a debate anymore, and that’s the point he’s making. If you take that personally or as an insult, well ... good luck in the real world.
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[quote]Yeah that’s not an insult. It’s a simple statement of fact. Destiny isn’t a PvE game. It’s a PvE and PvP game. I don’t see how this is even a debate anymore, and that’s the point he’s making. If you take that personally or as an insult, well ... good luck in the real world.[/quote] It’s a PvE game with a PvP mode. Everything from resources spent on development, amount of content created, and player population/activity should point to how much of the game is dedicated to PVP. Almost none. “If you deny that then you are delusional or lying to yourself”.
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You keep believing that. Have a good day.
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Thanks, you too.
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Editado por ADarkUrge: 1/7/2021 11:11:33 PMCalling someone delusional is an insult.
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Eh, whatever. If you’re really that easily offended, this is not a good place for you to hang out. And insult or not, he’s 100 percent right on that particular point.
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[quote]Eh, whatever. If you’re really that easily offended, this is not a good place for you to hang out. And insult or not, he’s 100 percent right on that particular point.[/quote] And the person commenting they stopped watching after the insults started is 100 percent right it’s an insult.
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It doesn't matter at all if it is or not, you are calling people that disagree with your opinion delusional, and that is very clearly an attack on their character. (and even ability as debaters) You can attack arguments, concepts, actions, beliefs, why do you have to insist on trying to blur the lines to attack people as well? Is it really important for you to offend the person behind the argument rather than try to persuade them to see things from your point of view. Just food for thought from a ten year old Bungie account.
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This is someone else’s video, man, in case you didn’t bother reading my original post. I didn’t call anyone anything; I happen to agree with the points he made about PvP, which is ALL that this thread ought to be about. But now it’s been hijacked by forum politeness police. So do you have anything to say about the actual subject of the video? I’m guessing not. Good day.
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[quote]This is someone else’s video, man, in case you didn’t bother reading my original post. I didn’t call anyone anything; I happen to agree with the points he made about PvP, which is ALL that this thread ought to be about. But now it’s been hijacked by forum politeness police. So do you have anything to say about the actual subject of the video? I’m guessing not. Good day.[/quote] The subject of the video is a content creator asking for Bungie to spend resources on the game for all players to be spent developing content he can make videos of. What part of that is players supposed to care about?
