Bungie treats us as a passenger on their joy ride rather than a customer.
My analogy over here would be ad follows:
Destiny: Cab/taxi
Bungie: Driver
Player: Customer
Base game: Free online registration to access the taxi/cab. Car is limited to 5MPH speed.
DLC: Membership tier for less relevant places like grocery stores. Car speed increases to half the allowed road speed limit.
Season Pass: Membership tier for going longer distances and more relevant places like restaurants and job. Car can drive up to the legal speed limit.
Eververse: Unlimited journeys to anywhere you want. Chose your car and speed limit is expected by law, aka over speeding is legal in this tier.
Customer pays the fare for a limited journey and as long as the journey remains relevant to the customer the driver does not need to do anything apart from charging the customer. The only explanation from driver will be:
1. We are downsizing the car from a luxurious executuve MPV, which you paid for in full in past years of membership, to a hatchback because its too big to drive. (Content vault)
2. The old membership card you had is of wrong color so you need to renew it every 12 months. It will be same thing but new color and retain your membrship (gear sunset).
3. We are changing the colour of the leather seats every months so you think it's a new car but it's the same old seat where you farted last week (season weapons recycle)
4. You don't use extra seats so we are thinking of removing them (super sunset)
5. Air conditioning is a optional billable extra if you want to reach your destination in style on hot summer day (Eververse)
6. You must make several journeys every day in order to retain membership (daily grind)
Every relevant communication is there so not sure what you are complaining about. 🙃
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I originally wrote:
Bungie doesn't treat the playerbase as stake holders; they just look at players as paying customers.
Why I think we should be a stake holder... because we agree to a one sided EULA which I reckon is more similar to a rental agreement than a purchase agreement.
We don't own anything in this game when we buy the product. We literally have a limited use license which is twisted in a way that we are at a disadvantage by design.
The gaming industry is not regulated by FCA or anything equivalent (in US or UK) and only exception is Belgium AFAIK. In UK , for example, all statutory rights are nulled when a digital game or season pass is purchased for all games. This is good for business but bad for customer.
As an entertainment tool, I don't have a problem with this but I think Bungie is highly exploitative when usingnlae to siphon money from customers.
Hence the analogy, now simplified for all.
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Yeah so owning a license to play this game can't be compared to actually owning shares in bungies stock lol this analogy is terrible
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Explained and clarified in spoiler to preserve the rest of it. Feel free to correct and enlighten.
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The analogy is bad it doesn't matter how you tried to explain it
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I think some gamers are too sympathetic to this game and Bungie that nothing can get through to them. Just salt and negativity from sub standard loving gamers just keep this game and Bubgie floating. Analogymay be bad but I tried to make it simple enough for the said player base. I can't go any lower I guess so to each their own 🤷♂️
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I'm not saying the game is perfect because it isn't .. I just didn't agree w the analogy
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Fair enough.
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We [i]are[/i] paying customers. We [i]aren’t[/i] stakeholders. Your premise is not just flawed; it’s pure fantasy.
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You have no idea about this post... so I won't bother explaining it further as I've already simplified it enough. Have a nice day.
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[quote]You have no idea about this post... so I won't bother explaining it further as I've already simplified it enough. Have a nice day.[/quote] You mean you suck at analogies and fundamentally misunderstand the relationship between business and customer. Gotcha.
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I think that's a self-reflection. Gotcha.
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[quote]I know you are, but what am I?[/quote] Really? Customers aren’t stakeholders. Neither literally nor figuratively. Bungie is a service provider. We are customers. Period.
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Talk about beating a bad analogy to death
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Anything to add?
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https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Bungie-Reviews-E284423.htm read through these, read through these and notice a lack of -blam!- about pay which is a common complaint in any job You want several hundred game devs to get paid what their owed then put up with eververse getting some extra [b]cosmetic[/b] treatment they just updated the free loot pool to include everything up to the last three seasons. You want to save your bright dust, do it, next season is supposed to improve that you want to -blam!- about the nerf to weeklies, well my friend did a podcast and went through the maths to find that barely %2 actually do all of those weeklies each week and will lose a total of 5-10k dust which isn't worth the effort. https://open.spotify.com/episode/7vN18Qy3K3KTlssK3TqdXH As long as eververse isn't handing out gear that can be of any use, I will never understand the complaints about it.
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Have you read galssdoor reviews about all fortune 500 companies? Most of them don't pay and Bungie is no different. It's a pyramid corporate world designed by capitalists to capitalise on us. I worked in silicon Valley for years and pay was an issue with every major company I worked with. It's not enough or is inadequate for what you do. Game industry hurts a lot. Bungie could have had it both ways but becuae they have a magazine writer running the show they are in this mess. If it was executed by more capable managers then this would be a better game. It was almost there in D1 when greed and laziness took over. It can still be turned around but nah, making content is hard and skins is easy.