They can create some decent stuff if they have the manpower and will to do it but I just don't know if they are going to. The fact that Luke smith himself said we probably won't ever get anything on the scale of forsaken again truly hurts to hear because that could very easily mean they don't WANT to expand. Forsaken is what I think destiny needs to really become that desirable game it used to be, at least for me and them not going to be able to deliver that is painful to hear. Core activities, a raid, a dungeon, 2 patrol locations, multiple exotics, 9 new supers (7 if you don't count bannershield and spin stick), a weekly changing location (dreaming city), gambit, and most importantly...hope. Hope for the players that felt lost and frustrated in the game. Forsaken was worth every last cent I paid for it and if I'm being honest, I probably would have paid more if I could because it's scale was just on a completely different level for destiny. Shadowkeep was the descent into the darkness and upon finally reaching that point the game is honestly the least interesting to play it's ever been. It was fun for a couple days...but now I'm back to doing the stuff I've been doing since year 1 d2 to get gear which is absolutely heart breaking. I can put up with this kind of stuff for seasonal content because it's only 10$...but besides a new subclass and location we didn't get ANYTHING even remotely close to what forsaken brought but for the exact same price. Luke smith said that beyond light is strictly bigger than shadowkeep...but besides a new subclass and map it feels like a lesser experience than shadowkeep was despite them simply reusing an old map and within 3 days I was done playing on europa. It has no incentive to go there other than to pick up bounties and the weapons only feel fine to use. Their perks are just bland and honestly I cannot say I'm impressed at all. Where are these more powerful legendaries that were supposed to arrive when sunsetting finally came into play? Why is my gnawing hunger and dire promise which are YEARS old equal if not superior to any single weapon I can earn NOW? The amount of loot and power of them is just so completely underwhelming that I can't BELIEVE there were people that bought their nonsense. I KNEW they wouldn't create weapons that were substantial enough to replace our old gear so they decided that the only way to get you to use this crap was to get rid of every single older gun that was in fact superior. Didn't want to create powerful weapons...shit they barely created any at all. I counted 19 legendary additions to our loot pool this season (light.gg, I know raid weapons aren't shown)with season of the hunt and reskinned weapons being part of the equation. The content they created is nice but gear IS destiny and without any substantial amount of it the game just cannot remain enjoyable for me. I didn't expect beyond light to be forsaken but man I wish it was because destiny really could have used something that substantial or at least on a somewhat comparable level after so much build up. If the seasonal content is what's stopping them from ever creating something substantial again...I can't say I will continue to support the game, not like this. I always enjoy coming on the forums to talk to people and write out my stupid ideas but this has been more fun than actually playing the game i paid for which is just sad. I like destiny so much but I just can't support the direction the game is going nor it's how it's being handled in a manner that I feel comfortable. I was a fool to purchase the bundle that gave me the dlc and the seasons because I'm not getting anything equivalent to the standard the price once set. This feels like warmind but with a new super for double the price. I don't know what to do with destiny anymore. I don't WANT to quit because I want to keep playing it...but they just aren't giving me anything to do where I can really FEEL their passion. I can only feel their d2 year 1 passion which was 2 tokens and a blue.