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11/13/2020 8:48:10 PM
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It's just day three and you're complaining? We have a whole new path paved in front of us for a new guns to come in season to season. You think this is a little premature to be complaining right now?
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  • actually no we lost hundreds of guns and armor and now we get less then 30 new weapons and 2 sets of armor

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  • And most of those guns were crap. Everyone picks about 10 or so weapons that are all side grades compared to one another (meaning they do about the same in performance) and decides not to expand their arsenal. I kept copies of guns in my vault and used basically none of them because the guns that I like are on my character. The majority of the player base move on to newer guns and you have a vocal minority who think that they're loud enough to tell bungie not to sunset weapons. It has happened and now that they've paved the way to new guns coming in season to season, you will see that your arsenal will grow again.

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  • Vocal minority saying to sunset weapons have you seen the forums? Also we hardly got any weapons this season.

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  • Yes, a vocal minority. out of a million players you're probably going to see about less than 1% of people complaining and upvoting a sunsetting topic. I will concede that there may be even more that do not like sunsetting but a lot of them do not care enough to express this as a problem. [i][b][u]What you see on the forums is not representative of the community[/u][/b][/i]

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  • Here’s the thing, if you wanted to use new stuff, there wasn’t anything stopping you. Sunsetting isn’t what enables you to use new things. You would’ve always had that choice. Sunsetting however does take away people’s ability to use old things. It removes that choice. Sunsetting being reverted doesn’t affect you at all. You’ll still be able to use new things. All it does is give people more choices. More choices is always better, and it doesn’t at all affect people who want to use new things. Sunsetting being reverted is a win for everyone.

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  • If that the best argumentation you have then you're not entering the realm of solutions here. All you're doing is proving their point as to why they should've done this in the first place. All most players complain about is using older weapons. They want to sandbag older weapons into the newer content. You aren't given choice if your god roll side-grades are keeping your attention. You'll just use what you already have. You actually gimp your own experience by not toying with the new weapons. It doesn't matter if that's your choice to make. Bungie won't let players do it. And they explained why. This sort of argumentation is short-sighted, self serving, and anecdotal. Sunsetting is here man. People have to accept it.

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  • Of course I'm gonna use what I already have it's good. If I find something better I'll use that, but rng is terrible so your chances of finding something better are slim. Slimmer now that sunsetting is a thing. You won't find something you actually like till half way through its life cycle or worse a month out from retirement. If sunsetting was so good why'd they stop doing it in D1 and why did it take over three years to return in D2?

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  • they stopped sunsetting in D1 because after rise of iron they already had plans for d2. They kind of just dropped it and it looked like they forgot about sunsetting. mind you they were going to do the same thing for D2 and move on to D3 so it wouldn't have looked like a huge deal. I don't want to fall into this rabbit hole about subjective arguments about what's better than what period you're going to find what you like hopefully in the future. I personally have found weapons with cooler perks than just damage and reload. I'm enjoying it and I'm going to make the best of my time.

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  • I don't even use outlaw kc/rampage. At the end of the day. They stopped using the sunsetting system. You can say it was for whatever reason you want, but I was there for that shit people hated it. Luke Smith himself said. "Nobody likes feeling like their time has been wasted." I'm paraphrasing, but that was the gist of it. And go figure he was -blam!-ing right.

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  • This argument is invalid when they are reissuing old shit with new power caps.they didnt make new content they just want you to empty your vault and start over.

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  • Why do people have selective memory? They said that they would reissue weapons with [i][b] new perks[/b][/i]. All the same that does not dismiss the reasoning for sunsetting.

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  • Same old weapons same old perks so that didn't happen.

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  • How can you justify creating a system where you grind for guns, level them up, masterwork them with in game currency. Then they sunset those guns in favor of the same guns aith new light caps and "different perks" Why not just include new perks in the loot pool and let people decide which version of the same gun they like better? They are still selling forsaken and shadowkeep on steam! Content theyve effectively removed from the game already. My memory isnt selective. Your argument is garbage. Im not some 12 year old who plays for free. I paid good money for content, hundreds when you factor in that i bought content for not just myself but another player on multiple systems. I bought forsaken and shadowkeep late, so those were just wasted money for me now because everything i bought in those expansions are useless. Have you looked through collections? Count how many auto rifles you can get today that arent sunsetted? Now take those auto rifles and remove raid only guns? You know what your choices are as a new casual player? Gnawing hunger and the new gun. Thats right. 2, casuals get 2 auto rifle choices. 3 if you include uriels gift...but why would you.

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  • [quote]How can you justify creating a system where you grind for guns, level them up, masterwork them with in game currency. Then they sunset those guns in favor of the same guns aith new light caps and "different perks".[/quote] Simple, when you make a game the way you want it, you make it so. What do you want? Sunsetting is here and we have to deal with it. It's not a matter of justifying it. It's a matter of accepting it and moving on.

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  • Editado por AgentDoubleV: 11/14/2020 12:53:24 PM
    YOU have to accept it and move on. I applied for my refund and am looking forward to trying new games. I am a paid player. I paid for my right to complain about the devs choices. I laid for my right to complain on the way out the door too. I dont remember asking you for permission, nor do i give a shit if you think i should complain or not. If youre happy to take a fat one without complaining about your wasted time and money its because you are weak and pathetic.

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  • Editado por Necrogen: 11/14/2020 12:56:28 PM
    [quote] I applied for my refund and am looking forward to trying new games. If your happy to take a fat one without complaining about your wasted time and money its because you are weak and pathetic.[/quote] The only weak and pathetic person here is [i]you[/i]. You got an answer you didn't like and here you are attacking me. You're the one getting frustrated over a videogame. Here's another good one. The "double talk". You claim you're going to get your refund and play other games and move on yet want to remain here to complain. Okay pal. Do what you want. The only person here wasting their time is you.

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  • Again who the -blam!- asked you for permission? No one who is upset about their wasted time and money gives a shit about what necrobitch thinks about it. Im going to complain, get my refund, tell everyone i know how much the game sucks and isnt worth the money, write a shitty review or 2 on steam to warn away new players. And im going to feel vindicated as the game dies and another company makes a better version to take its place. And necrogens dumb ass opinion? Lost on bungies defunct app. Go ahead and report my post, im deleting it as soon as my refund is in anyways.

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  • [quote]Again who the -blam!- asked you for permission? No one who is upset about their wasted time and money gives a shit about what necrobitch thinks about it. Im going to complain, get my refund, tell everyone i know how much the game sucks and isnt worth the money, write a shitty review or 2 on steam to warn away new players. And im going to feel vindicated as the game dies and another company makes a better version to take its place. And necrogens dumb ass opinion? Lost on bungies defunct app. Go ahead and report my post, im deleting it as soon as my refund is in anyways.[/quote] Grow up. You asked a question, got an answer you didn't like and you had a temper tantrum. you're the one with the double talk here saying that you're going to move on and play other games now yet you would still backtrack and come back to the forums to talk about a game you don't even engage in anymore. It's not a matter of "oh I can have an opinion if I want". It's a matter of moving on. all you're doing is giving bungie more data on players who've had an account that's still engaging the game period if more than half of you actually left and never played this game again they would see drop out. yet here you are giving them traffic on their forums and telling their investors that people don't even need to buy this game to be interested in this game. You don't think about these things do you? Continue to do what every cynic does about this game - make bungie those dollars.

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  • Your responses are idiotic. Being calm and quiet when youre being ripped off and scammed doesnt make you mature. It makes you mentally ill. You have no reasonable defense for sunsetting, yet you still have the gall to tell people who are justifiably upset that they should stay quiet and move on. Pathetic and bizarre. My forum traffic isnt making them money you dumb shit. My refund is losing them money. My negative experience and negative reference will lose them even more. Also. Youre using "double speak" wrong. This isnt a political debate. Moron.

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  • Editado por Necrogen: 11/14/2020 1:28:48 PM
    I'm going to do myself a favor and mute you because you are the very definition of talking to a wall. Godspeed and good luck with "moving on"

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