In my opinion, it’s a problem with the upper management. I forget where and when I read this, but it was one of the Forbes articles about Destiny if I remember correctly. In one month, WoW made about 600 million in online transactions. Bungie made slightly les than that throughout an entire year. Management sees: “600 million on a month! Let’s do that! Focus on that revenue source!” So the game shifts. Players aren’t as happy. Sales don’t meet projections. Management: “We only made 1/12th of what we should have! We need to cut costs!” The most expensive part of running a business is having employees. So the first pace that management looks to cut is in labor hours & employees. Meanwhile they cut on other areas as well, but they never get the goal of “600 million a month” out of their head. So they manage from a standpoint of “How can we cut costs AND make that 600 million a month?” The game suffers more, the cycle continues. In my opinion, to set the kinds of sales goals that it feels like Bungie management is trying to reach, they need a much bigger player base and a more loyal player base. They need the players to have more enthusiasm for the game itself. So a smarter long term move would be to focus on keeping your employees and labor hours, run a tighter profit margin for a better product overall. Build consistent customers through less profit and more quality content. Over time, numbers will grow. Sales will grow. People will feel more confident on purchasing in game items because the game is based on a solid foundation that will last and continue to be of good quality. As it is now, if feels as if Bungie is dwindling, slowly reducing content and quality over time while focusing on micro transactions with unrealistic goals. People don’t want to spend 15.00 for a cosmetic item in a game made by a company who might be going out of business soon, or at least isn’t as good as we remember it to be. Quality product first. Build trust with the customer base second. The profits will increase after that. But that’s not how it feels Bungie is being ran right now. This is all just my own opinion.

Datto needs to shut up and stop blowing smoke up Bungies ass. Forsaken was made during a time expansions were every 4 months or do. Expansions now are annual. If that's not enough time, Bungie need to give up right now. As for budget, don't make me laugh, Bungie have the funds.

I mean, datto is just repeating what bungie themselves already stated in the past before. Not sure what people expect

It doesn't really matter whether BL takes up as much hard drive space as Forsaken as long as its good. And its not out yet so there's no way of knowing.

Destiny's always had pre order bonuses and deluxe editions. Acting like they're some new invention for income for Bungie is just plain wrong. Bungie has lost the support of two studios that helped them thru Forsakens and the annual passes content. They are now independent, and expecting more content output is just plain delusional.

Do you believe the Master Chief succeeded because he was at his core, broken?

Bungie used to focus on Destiny only. They benefited from a much bigger budget, support from partners like High Moon and Vicarious Vision, AND lead managers from pvp to raids with incredible track record and technical expertise. Yet, they were still “unable to deliver content in quality and time.” Since then, they lost the biggest gaming bank in the world and all of their lead managers, they are no longer supported by HM and VV, what’s left of their workforce is focusing on different franchises, their new board member would certainly prefer destiny to fail, and they have to deal with how covid effects their ability to deliver. Yet all the fanboys believed that they would do better. It’s just absurd. That said I tend to believe that Europa is going to be a nice destination to discover and explore, and that some secrets will keep players busy for a few days. The problem will be the lack of diversity, or say to be forced to play less strikes, less gambit and pvp maps, but still have to complete the same old sets of activities to push the hamster wheel.

I don’t know how people can expect forsaken sized expansions every year, which was the largest dlc ever, made by 3 studios. And then the annual pass, with 3 activities and 2 extra raids. Also when we only had a dlc and no seasons, the content drought was really boring in d1 every year waiting for stuff to do.

Bungie just needs to grow a pair and ask for some help. I’m confident Microsoft would be more than happy to get in on a partnership with them.

You know the rules

It’s not budget, it’s their team. Forsaken was made with activision assets, therefore they had teams like Vicarious Visions and High Moon to make more content. Hypothetically, they could make forsaken caliber content, but it would come at the cost of crunch for workers. Cyberpunk 2077 is a perfect showcase of how that doesn’t work. They’ve been pushing the team ridiculously hard and still they’ve been delaying it over and over

Datto is a fat nerd that hates life, why should we listen to him?

I'll just be happy when he fails to get worlds first again.

You shouldn't be upset at Bungie specifically, though they do bear a lot of the responsibility in their individual game. It's an industry practice now to lean on microtransactions. If it didn't work they wouldn't do it. Enough people won't get behind not buying them. Too many people that can't help but look cool or kids whose parents allow them to just buy stuff. Your Reach statement is interesting. I was around then. People were mad AF about how that game turned out. Mainly because of armor abilities, especially armor lock. Basically gamers don't like change, but if you don't change you get labeled as stagnant. Gamers will never be happy.

Datto is probably the only youtuber that tells it how it is 👍

Almost like there is a pandemic , -blam!-ing weird bro 🤣 God, kids these days