While we’re at that, can we remove Quickdraw from shotguns? Nothing like getting one shot in the middle of a primary fight that makes me want to play crucible.

Aww? Did the sniper touch you wrong? Stfu. Snipers just need their aim assist fixed.

Really does seem like you are butthurt, snipers take the most skill to use in the game. Nerf shotguns.

Not at all. Shotguns if anything take the most skill. Sniper hitboxes are the size of a truck, anyone half experienced in fps games will never miss with a sniper in destiny. Coming from someone with almost 30,000 sniper kills, they are broken in their current state.

You're not just wrong, you're stupid.

Says the guy who made it all the way to Legend in Valor😂. Get outta here dude. You wanna punish players who took the time to play snipers and get good players it’s them. No blueberry is a threat with a sniper. There’s a huge difference between a player who is a really good sniper and a player who can’t hit a headshot to save his life. Also if your running into sniper lanes that’s your fault not Revoker.

If by "sniper lanes" you mean literally any sightline that's outside of shotgun range... Yes, it's kind of hard not to, telling me not to do that is telling me to camp a short hallway with a shotgun, or 3 peek with a sword or emote, which is a complete different can of worms (and an exploit, if you ask me). And it's not hard to get good with snipers considering they're impossible to properly fight and getting a bodyshot allows for super easy cleanup, especially on high impacts, and shooting shoulder pads will frequently give the OHK to you.

About 85% of maps cater to shotguns and fusions yet snipers are OP 🤔🤔🤔 you realise you have to actually aim for the head unlike other special weapons. Surely you should be complaining about the completely broken erentil or bastion range instead?

[quote]About 85% of maps cater to shotguns and fusions yet snipers are OP 🤔🤔🤔[/quote] Fusions? *Squints at the use group of them* And last I checked, the average human reaction time is faster than most fusions take to charge. If Fusions has about double their current range and less charge time, but not currently... And no, most maps have a few areas that are "shotgun." In terms of maps that entirely pander to shotguns... Burnout... Maybe? Cauldron probably, Anomaly possibly, maybe Gambler's Ruin..? Meanwhile maps that pander almost entirely to snipers include: - Bannerfall - Citadel - Convergence - Distant Shore - Emporer's Respite - Endless Vale - Equinox - Eternity - The Fortress - Meltdown - Midtown - Radiant Cliffs - Rusted Lands - Twilight Gap - Vostok - Widow's Court - Wormhaven [quote]you realise you have to actually aim for the head unlike other special weapons.[/quote] Where near-misses and hits to about the collarbone and up count as headshots... And shoulder pads... Also are slug shotguns a joke to you? [quote]Surely you should be complaining about the completely broken erentil or bastion range instead?[/quote] Ah yes... 18 meters at best with a charge time slower than most primaries take to kill, and 12 meters at a charge rate slower than most primaries take to kill... Super broken range... Fun fact; Outside of Bastion, Telesto, and Jötunn, Fusions are supposed to reach about double what they currently do, since they're mid-range.

I don't agree with those map choices other than equinox, fortress and half of midtown the others simply have a singular long range lane. Just because there is a lane that snipers use doesn't make it a "sniper" map. Regardless of long lanes such as equinox you will more often than not get shafted by scout or pulse players at long ranges and in the closer quarters engagements by slideshotgunned by an ape from your local zoo. And that fact you're defending some of the most broken guns in erentil and bastion is a joke, next you'll be saying arbalest is balanced. In game modes like trials or even competitive fusions can be literally unplayable but yet you still seem to think that snipers are broken.

[quote]I don't agree with those map choices other than equinox, fortress and half of midtown the others simply have a singular long range lane.[/quote] I went for maps that have about 2/3+ of them as long, generally open sightlines. Rusted Lands outside of a few hallways is almost entirely open season with snipe. Vostok is also a PRIME sniper map, and look at sniper usage stats on Widow's Court. [quote]Just because there is a lane that snipers use doesn't make it a "sniper" map. Regardless of long lanes such as equinox you will more often than not get shafted by scout or pulse players at long ranges and in the closer quarters engagements by slideshotgunned by an ape from your local zoo.[/quote] A. Flinch is broken so primary vs. sniper isn't possible B. Who uses Scouts?! [quote]And that fact you're defending some of the most broken guns in erentil and bastion is a joke, next you'll be saying arbalest is balanced.[/quote] And you unironically think the top of the garbage pile is broken. Usage statistics and the fact that they're the slowest, least mobile special weapons that have consistency issues via their spread proved that [i]before[/i] they were nerfed to the fringes of usability (not being good, being anywhere close to [i]usable[/i] outsideof meming with bad weapons). Bastion is also fine, problem with that is that traditional fusions have zero upside because their range for overnerfed by about 15-20 meters. And no, Arbalest needs to stay where it is beyond the hitbox being too big. [quote]In game modes like trials or even competitive fusions can be literally unplayable but yet you still seem to think that snipers are broken.[/quote] Oh look, scrims limit teams to 1 sniper and a very common complaint with Trials is how snipers completely run the pacing of literally every game, while also being unbeatable without using one yourself in most situations. Yet the easiest to play against weapon class in FPS games does none of those things. Gee whiz... I think you might need to reevaluate your entire perspective on FPS games if you think like this.