I totally agree but it was also those same players that asked for super regen exotics to get nerfed because the game got too easy, it was the same players that wanted lunas howl nerfed and we now have auto rifles with the same ttk as pre nerf lunas howl. Players constantly ask for nerfs to the point Bungie gets fed up and just completely nerfs things to the ground, hence nova warp being the most pathetic class to ever exist in destiny. These same players that hate sunsetting weapons are also the ones wanting the most used weapons nerfed because these players will never accept the fact that there will always be the next big thing. Bungie knows this and decided to make this option because everyone is always complaining about the meta, so revoker, mountaintop, spare rations etc. all these weapons are really good but everyone always complain about them so whats the alternative bungie has? Sunsetting Bungie has never been the best at creating new content and refreshing things so I have no idea why everyone was pro sunset, I knew this was going to happen and I was not surprised when I learned we are regrinding for old stuff. The only real reason sunsetting exist is to force a different meta because everyone always complains whenever they get wrecked. We also have those idiots that claim power creep, like who cares? Are we not playing a video game? Whats the point of leveling up and powering up if we cant even feel it? I blame the whiny players that always get on the forums asking for nerfs and the ones that complain about never having anything to do. I seriously feel if people bothered to ask for buffs and more game modes or more story missions instead of nerfs, we would be in a much better spot.

Finally - someone who understands that the difference between mod values in pvp and pve make the whole power creep discussion dishonest. Great post. We’re supposed to take power creep seriously when: 1. The game has operated for years without power creep being an issue. Crickets. 2. The artifact creates power creep every season. 3. Bonuses attached to power level increases do more to put the game on easy mode than any mod. 4. Corollary to #3 - no player is OP at the beginning of the power climb even with recluse and mountaintop. The perks are not a design problem, if at all, until the absolute endgame. 5. By sunsetting weapons and armor Bungie is committing themselves to MORE design effort, not less. They have to replace everything made obsolete with stuff has the same or better value. Otherwise the game becomes more vanilla and less fun. And - drum roll...... 6. The same weapons with the same perk pools are being reissued right in front of us. Which exposes the lie that sunsetting was necessary to begin with. The real problem - Bungie would rather be anal retentive micromanagers instead of giving players the space to have fun. I’ve never seen a game as punishing as this one. Who needs it? I’m not preordering or buying the expansion anymore until Bungie starts developing to its strengths: first rate FPS mechanics, art, and story development. Everything else is a distraction that adds no value.

You never played D1 did you. Power creep was the reason they wiped our vault.

Completely on point with your post. Well said.

Yeah Bungie is in self distruction mode. Seems they want to transform this into a Fortnite kind of game but. They should separate PvP and PvE. They want to balance weapons in PvP, yet the maps are too small, there is no creativity or exploration involved, the skill level difference for new players is overwhelming - which makes for a non fun experience. They really need to work on making PvP a fun experience. As for PvE, here the point is building up for high end activities. People want to feel powerful. Want to build up to melt the big Bosses. With all this nerfing, sunsetting, balancing - champions, stomping, faux level - so many things have become annoying instead of exhilarating. On top, high end activities requiere some commitment, a more mature attitude. Lately there are lots of people in raids being so rude and disrespectful, wasting peoples time - this community is changing in the wrong way. People don’t appreciate what is free. Pinnacles and power are important in PvE. Bungie is killing the motivation - why grind for anything? It’s meant to be fun and rewarding yet Bungie is just creating frustration. And it’s too controlling to please no one. Nor the casual or the committed player.