Those are 2 very very very different things. Unless your only criteria is "can't use old gear" Which makes just as much sense as saying whales a spiders are the same animal because they both live on earth

It is different though. . . Much less effort goes into sunsetting gear.

The only thing Bungie will be sunsetting is their playerbase. They can keep catering for the streamers, cheaters, hackers and exploiters (both in game and outside) and that will be the toxic wasteland future of this game. CBMM is their admittance to smaller playerbase so its happening

In destiny 3 we may have new gear Sun setting is making all our gear useless but letting us grind for the same gear again Lazy developers are behind this

Oh shite. They don't have the money to make us do a reset the respectable way, so this is D3 on a budget. Ah. Bet. And the gag is, they are removing D2 content.

But sunsetting 2345332346433454 times cheaper for development

Honestly if it was just sunsetting for new and cool improved new weapons I would be like ok I can live with this, but they sunset weapons so you they can be released again and you have to get them AGAIN is unexcusable

Because now they won’t have to build a newer up to date game engine like they most certainly would if they did make D3. This Tiger engine is over a decade old. And takes entirely too long to edit(build) content. D3 would also need dedicated servers. Because p2P networking sucks and the community is proof of that. Clans made that record IP addresses just so they can constantly harass players. Because they get out much cheaper this way.

It's just a way of making people grind for the shit they have already got. Without additional new content. All about the money.

eehhhh i think this is a bit misguided. D3 means: larger content droughts in D2 while they develop a new game, and eventually abandoning it like D1. Then when D3 launches it will again have way less content then its predecessors bc they started from scratch. All of our gear will be new, and anything at all that we earned or bought before would be gone. Sunsetting,we still keep everything cosmetic, we still keep all our exotics, and we still keep all our legendaries. We just have to use legendaries from the last 12 months when we want to try the endgame content. So it's a partial reset, to encourage players to chase new gear, and also a way for bungie to remove guns like recluse and moutaintop from the meta without constant nerfs.

I think they made the right decision in sticking to D2. We all remember what happened when Bungie tried to do a sequel. Yeah, Year 1 was an utter embarrassment Bungie should have never shipped. Far as I'm concerned they should have given us Forsaken for how bad D2 was through year 1. Not only that but the planets in D2 don't hold a candle to how well constructed the planets of D1 were. Sure they look better and have more floral but mechanically, game play wise D1 planets, imho were superior. Granted even D1 planets had room for improvement but they were great playgrounds. But yeah, I think sticking with D2 was a good move especially but not limited to if they can give PS5/XBX players a boost & decrease load times via a patch. However mapping the next 2 years out and sticking with D2 long term. I question that move but if nothing at least they're telling fans D2 will be milked, I mean supported through at least 2022. You'd think at some point they need to make D3 but financially, I'm not surprised they're sticking with D2. Creating and releasing a D3 means cross gen split and if they devote to PS5/XBX the sales can't make up the cost in, at the very least, 2020-2021. However, sun-setting is a MAJOR mistake. Personally it's very likely the last straw for me. I almost deleted D2 the other night but since I paid for the season passes in the deluxe edition last year.... And who knows, maybe I suck it up but here's hoping PS5 and other games can fill the void and allow me to just forget about D2. It's not hard once you've stepped away and as much as I love Destiny I just can't keep doing this. Artificial grinds up the wazoo, sun-setting, Rampage and Kill Clip getting nerfed twice in less than a year along with the ridiculously slow reload times..... What's funny is the whole vaulting thing I could probably get over and live with. Though even that, I've paid $60 for D2, $X for Year 1 DLCs, $60 for Forsaken + $X for DLCs and last year another $60 for Shadowkeep + Season Passes. The same bundle they now want $70 for this Fall. It's a bit disturbing but not nearly as much so as sun setting. Not to mention all the $ I spent on D1 and it's DLCs and Fall Expansions. Or the $5 I paid just two months for the Austringer ornament which is a weapon I absolutely love that will no longer be usable in end game activities until when/if Bungie decides to re-release it and make me re-grind a roll I like or a god roll. There's no Menagerie so it won't be as easy as slotting runes and hoping for the best....

There’s a lot of blind Destiny followers arguing in favor of weapon sunsetting. I’ve been around for a long time now. I can tell you 100% certainty that every weapon being taken away will be recycled in some future content. Bungie recycles 90% of its content.

No. D3 would have been a chance to move on from the turgid waste of code that is D2. Instead, we have 6 years of the lacklustre garbage that is D2, a game that even after 3 years, is nowhere near approaching the level of fun and excitement that D1 provided, despite Bungo's 'best' efforts (which amount to little) to turn the rotten piece of roadkill that is D2 into D1. Joke dev.

U S E N E W G E A R Applies primarily to pve, but it's been a thing since forever in Destiny. Are we really going to use recluse and mountaintop for the next 2 years and ignore the new stuff? We legit need to get over this