If there’s better gear to grind for, then I’m cool with it. However, I think they should lock those weapons at their current light, then raise the level cap. That way those weapons can still be relevant in crucible, but not flat out dominate other aspects of the game.

You can literally go into any endgame content with a gun you got in the first hour of the game and destroy with it. What kind of progression is that? Why would our current equipment be effective in any and all future content? If we want Bungie to focus on new content we need to let them do that. The current system is bloating the lootpool and it's unsustainable. Anytime they add something to game they have to design against everything still relevant in the game. That is a huge burden that wastes time and holds back interesting design.

Here is the reason weapon retirement works. One it forces the meta to change without constantly having to monitor the sandbox every single season. Second it forces you to work at new content in ways you have not had to, creating a fresh experience. The reality is the reason the game is getting stale is that no one wants to give up their god roll weapons in PvE or PvP. Its the same 5-10 weapons in use for both and that is a problem. No one is forcing you to never use the weapon again. You want to replay GoS, Scourge, or any legacy content with your bygones, blast furnace, recluse, or midnight coup? Go for it, they will still be at a power level that allows that. Whatever new content comes out though you will have to adapt and learn to beat it by trying something new which is legitimately what half of you people -blam!- about constantly. "All they do is recycle and nothing feels new" They come out and say hey we are going to retire old weapons so we can focus more heavily on new stuff to create a new play environment and everyone goes no we dont want that..... So which is it do you want new or not? This isnt even a new concept, they did this in D1 with the taken king because the fact was the same weapons were just constantly being used and it was getting old. It forced you to handle things differently and adapt something new, and because of that it is still considered one of the best destiny DLC's. Call me a fan boy if you want but the fact of the matter is I will happily be forced to take off my recluse because i cant use it anymore to try something new because right now why would i try something new if i know i dont have to and what im using works? That is also all just for the PvE side of things look at PvP and its even worse spare rations, revoker, beloved, and hammer head... Thats all anyone uses, with the return of trials is imperative to have a way to constantly help change the meta otherwise its just boring and stale the same as PvE is right now. You want to stick with the old thats fine dont buy the new stuff and just play the old stuff with your same weapons. No one has a gun to your head saying hey keep playing the new stuff and use new weapons.

Against, and it's because: - It only affects end-game activities, which mean the positives of a changing meta in Crucible or even sandbox PvE aren't present - It removes incentive to get weapons, therefore, it removes [b]some[/b] incentive in previous content like raids and rituals / pinnacles - To me personally (Opinion here, not a fact) it feels like the easy way out for the issues doing this would solve, and it seems that it creates more problems than it solves anyways

To all the people who said they love or don’t mind it, I say, dishonor! Dishonor on your whole family! Dishonor on you! Dishonor on your cow!

This comes with a huge caveat in my opinion. If they keep drop rates the same as they are now, it's absolute ass. If they go the route this season where it was pretty easy tp get all the god-rolls even before the restoration event, I won't mind it. Hitting 92 on the pass to unlock a second perk option on the forth perk slot was huge. Giving us up to 5 weapons after each Sundial run was huge. Giving all the weapons their own bounties that didn't require much was huge. And then the restoration even to fill in any gaps was huge. They need to proceed with [b]ALL[/b] of that [i]every[/i] season if I was to get on board with weapon retirement. It didn't cost me and arm and a leg to get every god-roll this season so I won't miss anything from Dawn when that gets retired one day. But people who do 100+ runs to finally get something like Anarchy -- that's absolute shit game design if they keep that system AND retire weapons.

Rented guns to go with our expiring content. So excited for that. /s

I don’t mind it as long as there’s decent loot to go after. I have a feeling shit will he retired and the weapons we get aren’t even remotely as good . We’ll have to see how it plays out.

I can understand the arguements on both sides here. Personally? Don't really care so long as the gunplay itself stays as it is and so long as there will be a compound bow to replace the eventual retirement of my Subtle.

I love it because thats how it should work. Every RPG game has some kind of progression, but in Destiny 2 at this moment there is no progression. I ape with my mountaintop and recluse and im not going to change that unless they make me to do so.

It worked in d1. God forbid you can't your season 1 better devil's in the grandmaster nightfall. It's nowhere near that big of a deal. And as a side effect, there might be more weapons. It will make crucible more predictable and fresh. Power level is also disabled in pvp so you can bring your old weapons, while in iron banner and trials, old OP weapons will not be present and it will make the competitive crucible modes more fair.