It's from bottom tier players that are entitled enough to believe by virtue of being unskilled they get to dictate whom they should or should not match Remember though, majority hate sbmm as shown by Y2 D1s unprecedented protest right here on the forums #removesbmm

Did you really just show like 10 peoples IP addresses?

Pretty much. Even classic mix has sbmm. Messaged a couple of players to ask where they’re from. UK, Chile, Germany, Finland... the list goes on. Trash cans love SBMM and most players are trash so we gotta deal with it until bungie finds a reasonable solution.

SBMM is -blam!-ing awesome. I'm a trash PVP, playing against other trash PVP players is REALLY REALLY fun. If you feel like the people you play against are too good at the top, imagine how we feel playing against you. Yea. Sucks. So @Bungie. GG.

Why do they keep changing it?

Agreed that the current iteration is bad. Pure CBMM and SBMM are both bad with the p2p as is. More below. TLDR is that we need a properly implemented hybrid. Disclaimer: copy/paste snippets from my older posts because not a first time discussion: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SBMM was a good addition too. Average players are having balanced lobbies and good time. Low and high-end players are having balanced lobbies but suffering from queue times and off-hour lag. [b]The issue isn't SBMM, it's S+CBMM not being implemented properly. What bungo needs to do is take low-average and high-average players from close enough locations and mix them in more with low and high ends. Problem solved at least on paper and relatively balanced lobbies remain.[/b] Stomping is bad. Anyone telling you otherwise is selfish and that will always end up tripping the community down along the road. I hated CBMM in previous seasons because team balancing often paired my very high ELO with 5 very low ELO players from that lobby. The rest go to opposing team and then we got stomped on team level because only Frostbolt could carry that. -------------------------------------------- Saying higher level players should deal with this because majority are in the average and having a good time is selfish and lazy. Saying SBMM should be removed and put CBMM back in, to effectively remove the consistently balanced lobbies from being a thing is selfish and lazy. Pvp should be enjoyble for everyone. This is most consistently achieved by making the lobbies at least somewhat balanced.

The issue i have is that only one playlist is CBMM, so if I don’t want to face hyper sweaty players and want too mess around with some buddies I am forced into a ironically sweaty playlist because there isn’t enough choice. That’s why I advocate for choice based matchmaking, as it would allow anyone to match make in the way they want.

Love how people are downvoting this without reading it thats awesome

I have thoroughly enjoyed 5500 matches all season long in quick play. Also I didn’t know everyone was unbroken Except me in my lobby which is big fun(actually it’s not so bad I like the competition, unless it’s 6 of them against me)

your math is terrible.. how can you have half the team from 4 different countries.. further more, exactly how do you know they are from those countries? If you were on a half bar, that means your connection was bad. Your bar shows your connection not others connection.

I used to play classic mix a lot, gave up with it when most of my lobbies were Chinese and Korean.... two countries I’m thousands of miles away from... honestly I feel it’s connection based to a point then when you reach a skill threshold it heavily prioritises skill over connection...

Sucks man, most of my PvP friends are gone. Classic mix is infested with sweaty unbrokens and Control/Clash is infested with Laggy players from across the globe.