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[quote]No explanation or argument needed - if you've played Crucible lately, you've probably been mapped by an Erentil or Rebuke a few times a game.[/quote] No argument or explanation needed, the range of high impact fusions is fine, and they serve and important role in the meta by being the medium range 1HK. I don’t even have to look. Players who complain about being mapped are pushing up with short range weapons into a medium range 1hk and dying at medium range. That or they get tagged by another weapon at hit at long range by a bolt or two
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  • [quote][quote]No explanation or argument needed - if you've played Crucible lately, you've probably been mapped by an Erentil or Rebuke a few times a game.[/quote] No argument or explanation needed, the range of high impact fusions is fine, and they serve and important role in the meta by being the medium range 1HK. I don’t even have to look. Players who complain about being mapped are pushing up with short range weapons into a medium range 1hk and dying at medium range. That or they get tagged by another weapon at hit at long range by a bolt or two[/quote] Still defending your crutch I see. It’s laughable how broken they are. Stop lying to yourself. They’re going to get Nerfed as they damn well deserve to be.

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  • Crutch? Aside from Rebuke and Erentil, fusions sre barely used. Crucible is still 90% Hand Cannons and Shotguns. Shotguns are the real crutch

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  • [quote]Crutch? Aside from Rebuke and Erentil, fusions sre barely used. Crucible is still 90% Hand Cannons and Shotguns. Shotguns are the real crutch[/quote] Funny how high impacts are the only fusions used.... Wonder why?🤔

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  • The same reasons high impact everything else is used🤔

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  • [quote]The same reasons high impact everything else is used🤔[/quote] Why is DRB the most used shotgun 🤣

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  • [quote][quote][quote]No explanation or argument needed - if you've played Crucible lately, you've probably been mapped by an Erentil or Rebuke a few times a game.[/quote] No argument or explanation needed, the range of high impact fusions is fine, and they serve and important role in the meta by being the medium range 1HK. I don’t even have to look. Players who complain about being mapped are pushing up with short range weapons into a medium range 1hk and dying at medium range. That or they get tagged by another weapon at hit at long range by a bolt or two[/quote] Still defending your crutch I see. It’s laughable how broken they are. Stop lying to yourself. They’re going to get Nerfed as they damn well deserve to be.[/quote] There isn’t any data showing they should be. Just players who could counter them begging for nerfs so they don’t have to actually try. It would also ruin the meta for the whole crucible. That would be a pretty embarrassing nerf.

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  • [quote][quote][quote][quote]No explanation or argument needed - if you've played Crucible lately, you've probably been mapped by an Erentil or Rebuke a few times a game.[/quote] No argument or explanation needed, the range of high impact fusions is fine, and they serve and important role in the meta by being the medium range 1HK. I don’t even have to look. Players who complain about being mapped are pushing up with short range weapons into a medium range 1hk and dying at medium range. That or they get tagged by another weapon at hit at long range by a bolt or two[/quote] Still defending your crutch I see. It’s laughable how broken they are. Stop lying to yourself. They’re going to get Nerfed as they damn well deserve to be.[/quote] There isn’t any data showing they should be. Just players who could counter them begging for nerfs so they don’t have to actually try. It would also ruin the meta for the whole crucible. That would be a pretty embarrassing nerf.[/quote] Do you work for Bungie? How do you know the data other than what some 3rd party site shows you? I guarantee Bungie has more data than you do. And I don’t need data to see that 50 meter range fusions need to be adjusted. Anyone with half a brain can see it. You’re just defending them because it’s obviously what you main now.

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  • [quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]No explanation or argument needed - if you've played Crucible lately, you've probably been mapped by an Erentil or Rebuke a few times a game.[/quote] No argument or explanation needed, the range of high impact fusions is fine, and they serve and important role in the meta by being the medium range 1HK. I don’t even have to look. Players who complain about being mapped are pushing up with short range weapons into a medium range 1hk and dying at medium range. That or they get tagged by another weapon at hit at long range by a bolt or two[/quote] Still defending your crutch I see. It’s laughable how broken they are. Stop lying to yourself. They’re going to get Nerfed as they damn well deserve to be.[/quote] There isn’t any data showing they should be. Just players who could counter them begging for nerfs so they don’t have to actually try. It would also ruin the meta for the whole crucible. That would be a pretty embarrassing nerf.[/quote] Do you work for Bungie? How do you know the data other than what some 3rd party site shows you? I guarantee Bungie has more data than you do. And I don’t need data to see that 50 meter range fusions need to be adjusted. Anyone with half a brain can see it. You’re just defending them because it’s obviously what you main now.[/quote] All I need is the data from the API. I know Bungie doesn’t have further data showing they are a problem since they haven’t been changed since Forsaken launched. They don’t have 50m range. Anyone claiming they keep getting “mapped” by fusions at 50m are lying. In reality they are getting killed at 30m or less because they are out of cover trying to fight a medium range gun with a short range gun. They die, they blame it on the gun not themselves, and then they beg Bungie for nerfs so they don’t have to learn how to play the game better.

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  • And then telesto will be king

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  • [quote]And then telesto will be king[/quote] Lol. DRB will be more over used than it is now. (Which is twice more than Erentil).

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  • [i]But Oni hurr durr dey kill me from [b]literally[/b] across da map, without even aiming bwaaaaaaaaaaa[/i]

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  • [quote][i]But Oni hurr durr dey kill me from [b]literally[/b] across da map, without even aiming bwaaaaaaaaaaa[/i][/quote] Yesterday playing IB I killed a titan on Twilight gap from crouching on B-flag over to the catwalk above it bet the shipping container with a wizened rebuke. What happened was my shot actually hit the wall in front of them but two bolts splashed up and got the Titans foot. Now an instant before that my team mate jumped over the container and started unloading recluse into their back. My guess is this player said “I hate getting mapped by fusions” and then game here begging for a nerf. I’m sure I killed them other times when they tried to slide shotgun me in the hallway by running down the middle of it over and over.

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  • I will say every now and again my WR gets a kill that makes me choke. Its not a consistent thing though, at all. The only good argument I've seen about FR balance is that Backup Plan breaks the balance somewhat.

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  • [quote]I will say every now and again my WR gets a kill that makes me choke. Its not a consistent thing though, at all. The only good argument I've seen about FR balance is that Backup Plan breaks the balance somewhat.[/quote] I see more situations like the one I described if I am getting a long range kill than the gun over performing personally. BP drops the effective range, has to be activated, and changes the charge speed so much from when it’s not active that unless you are practicing so much with one gun you’re deadly perfect with it (something you can do with any gun) your gonna miss shots just from mis-fire. The only time I see an obvious back up plan kill is when I’m literally jumping through the air at someone with a shotgun or recluse out and thinking “what am I doing I should die here”. Sometimes I do... sometimes I don’t. It never makes me blame the other player or their gun.

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  • Yeah, long range full OHKs arent as common as some folk think, for sure.

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  • [quote][quote][i]But Oni hurr durr dey kill me from [b]literally[/b] across da map, without even aiming bwaaaaaaaaaaa[/i][/quote] Yesterday playing IB I killed a titan on Twilight gap from crouching on B-flag over to the catwalk above it by the shipping container with a wizened rebuke. What actually happened was my shot actually hit the wall in front of them but two bolts splashed up and got the Titans foot. Now an instant before that my team mate jumped over the container and started unloading recluse into their back so they were absolute before my shot finished. My guess is this player said “I hate getting mapped by fusions” and then came here begging for a nerf. I’m also sure I killed them other times when they tried to slide shotgun me in the hallway by running down the middle of it over and over.[/quote] Edit: fixed words so read good.

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